This is How the World Ends, This is How the World Ends….
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This is How the World Ends, This is How the World Ends….
Posted by SpagsUnfiltered on November 4, 2022 at 5:58 pmSo letâs talk about the state of the world at the moment. What do you all see as the potential eventualities of current events. Sure, we all know the COVID psyop was designed to weaken the west, and that Russia is actually winning in Ukraine. We know the US cannot fight battlefield combat anymore, and that we are relying on hiring ISIS fighters as mercenaries to fight in Ukraine. We know that the BRICS banking system was set up to undermine the petro dollar and that it has actually succeeded.
So how do you all see this playing out? What potential conflicts, events, false flags etc do you think will play out over the winter, and 2023?
Letâs get Unfiltered and talk theories!
guinnsfarm replied 1 year, 10 months ago 36 Members · 122 Replies -
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I don’t believe the end time is near just yet. I do believe America, as we know it, will fall hard. We will be reduced to proverbial ashes and will be known as “that country that was known as the greatest world power and they blew it with massive greed and corruption.” Many will be humbled beyond anything they could have possibly imagined. She will come back to her former glory by the grace of God and by God-fearing leaders again, though sadly not in my lifetime.
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I tend to agree that the “End Times” are not yet here. I take a less traditional approach with the subject of eschatology than most. But that aside, I think the world is in transition. I think that what has been brought high, must be brought low.
There is an ebb and flow to societal evolution, and we are seeing the real modern version of that IMO. As Ecclesiastes says, there is nothing new under the sun.
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There must be the washing out of all evil for us to enter and enjoy the Golden Age which has arrived. The New Earth is forming and rising and humanity will be restored to Natural Law.
All immorality will be washed away but your deliberate and intentional ACTION is required if you want to make this quantum leap.
Faith isnât enough, belief is irrelevant. Natural and Universal Laws do not require your faith or belief in them to be true as evidenced by GRAVITY.
The KNOWLEDGE and the subsequent ACTIONS you make based on TRUTH will be immediately rewarded or faced with consequences as it has been so since the beginning of time.
This hidden universal truth or âocculted, hidden, some refer to as even FORBIDDENâ TRUTHS, are solid. They do not require your belief, they are immutable.
Oath Keepers have risen. This is a spiritual war, not the zombie apocalypse as portrayed in the illusionary matrix ruled by the fantasy world of false imagery and fearful devils.
The UNBEGUN must awaken and begin to understand the KNOWLEDGE of the TRUTH and stop IGNOR-ANTLY – continue to IGNORE that which is LAW. Ignorance is no excuse for immorality in this age of information.
Knowledge is freely accessible but discernment is mandatory and research and action is required to understand how HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS and the HUMAN BRAIN works so we can FREE OUR BONDS FROM THE MASTERMINDS.
Iâm talking about this on my YouTube channel every Thursday at NOON. Follow for more information. There is great love here for you! đ
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First, while there is a lot of overlap, we have to remember, the U.S. is not “the world”, we are one large country, both physically and financially. (ok, we are one large, obese, myopic, self-absorbed country).
It has been my view for at least a couple of decades, that societies rise and fall, and often in a predictable manner, just on different timelines simply due to how “small” the world is, meaning how fast change can be conveyed across and between continents. 2000+ years ago, people, products and ideas moved much slower for obvious reasons, however, the trajectory of societies still had a rise and fall.
The U.S. and “Western world”, change at a vastly increased pace, which would mean, the rise and fall of Greece, or Rome or the Byzantine Empire in our time is simply speeded up, and rather than realizing this and perhaps at least letting up on the gas pedal, possibly even hitting the brakes and letting all these new ideas and social experiments prove themselves over time, we say “F-it” and hit the Nitrous button.
For all the verbal pontificating about posterity, our actions clearly show we are more than willing to pillage the land, our fellow citizens, and the future for current short-term pleasure. Personal needs are not determined by hunger in the belly, being sufficiently clothed, or covered, but instead in comparison to what someone else has, and if they have more, I need more at whatever cost.
Call it a reset, a collapse or whatever, I do believe change is coming, and looking back only 5 years or even less, a significant number of us obviously do not learn lessons well. Our attention span is microscopic. The moment the shelves became full after covid, any potential lessons were abandoned and it was back to our pre-covid overconsumptive orgy of commercial pleasure and convenience.
True change that will possibly last for at least a generation, will require the kind of lasting hardship endured by our predecessors during the Great Depression, or world wars or the like. Situations others on earth still endure in what we condescendingly call “third-world countries”.
Because I come from this tradition, I’ll repeat what I have said often to many “Evangelical Christians”..
Be careful when you pray in earnist for “God to return this country to you”, if the Bible is truely history and true, it tells us he did this multiple times with Israel, and the lessons almost always required a generation or more of famine, pestilance and/or slavery.
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I truly enjoyed reading this response. There is a true sense of history in it, and I especially loved your phrase, “pre-covid overconsumptive orgy of commercial pleasure and convenience”. Dear God that rings so true.
I also appreciate the fact you realize that the US isn’t the world. (I titled this discussion after the T.S. Eliot poem “The Hollow Men”, not from a nationalistic world view). We certainly as a people have acted quiet to the opposite and our own hubris has destroyed any foundation that our house was once built upon.
Furthermore, your call to the evangelicals is especially true. Asking God to favor one nation over another can be rather problematic. That in and of itself is a conversation to have around a fire pit with a nice bourbon amongst trusted friends.
In my not so humble opinion, God will never favor the United States as long as we sacrifice our children to false gods. Praying for God to bless a nation that has gone so far out of its way to not just ignore his will, but to flaunt the opposite; is rather egotistical in and of itself. (I say all of this as a non-traditional Christian, so not in a preaching sort of way as much as an outsider’s observation).
Anyway, great comment. I hope to read more of you on my threads in the future.
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It used to be said “to be truly educated, one must travel” (of course that likely referred to those wealthy enough to do so. )
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I dunno, maybe slaves and indentured servants traveled every bit as much…just not in luxury. Hahaha
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I agree whole heartedly. The only change we made when Covid became a popular word, was dig in and prepare for the upcoming storm. My garden did not do as well as I would have liked, but I learned.
The bible is truly history, yet most people do not learn from history in the manner of actually making a change. Those who are able to endure what is about to happen will be the workers, the ones who are up for the task to survive, and that is making sacrifices.
Sodom and Gomorrah is a vivid example of what happens when we do not heed God’s word, or even the warnings we have been told about.
May God help the souls of those who do not truly understand and refuse to learn. We can’t make people do what they are unwilling to do.
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The world…or OUR world. As a Christian I know that the world doesn’t end. It says so in the bible. Yes, there will be great tribulation. There will be a great war. And then Jesus will reign on Earth for 1000 years. But no where does it say that the world comes to an end.
Even putting Christianity aside. In a completely scientific view. We know the Earth changes. There are quakes, and volcanoes, and meteors, floods and droughts, ice ages, etc, but Earth lives on.
As has been stated though, I think Our world is about to come unglued. Never in history have the world powers been so reliant on each other. Before recent times. If England had a recession, France, China, Russia, and yes, America would be fine. Our markets didn’t affect other markets. Because for the most part markets didn’t trade on a worldwide basis. Now though, when one crashes, so too will many of the others.
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Would you say that globalization has in part made things this fragile and easily destroyed?
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Absolutely. The one world, out sourcing, just in time delivery, has put the globe in a tough spot. Itâs beyond stupid to take raw materials from one continent ship it thousands of miles to an other to be processed, only to be shipped back. Now I not talking about trade. Thatâs a different ball of wax. I am talking about sending whole chickens to China to be processed and then shipped back to stores within miles of were they were slaughtered in order to save 20 cents. Or even worse, send minerals to processed so the pollution is cause there.
You would think that we learned are lesson in the past few years
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How do you think we should go about educating people to understand that it’s ok to spend more locally then less internationally? What is the root cause of companies wanting to save that $.20 on the chickens? And I don’t think the answer is as simple as “greed”. I don’t see it as greedy at all for a company to try to save on overhead. So where is the line drawn in the sand for what constitutes legitimate saving of money to bring a cheaper product to market vs engaging in society ending, short sighted practices?
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Good question and not an easy one to answer. I do know that we used to do it in the past and very successfully at that. And making money in general is not a bad thing. As Morrissey once said in an interview âI canât think of a time in my life when having money was a bad thingâ. I do think thatâs there is a thought that it can be done ethically which is a different conversation.
I keep thinking that educating on how local can benefit the whole is a thing but people are addicted to the Walmart. Perhaps identifying what can be done locally and is needed and rebuild local. Like I said though itâs tough one and I need to really give it more though.
Have a great day
Bill T
Good latest vid by the way.
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Appreciate that! And thanks for being part of this conversation. Hopefully it continues and is a great discussion for days to come!
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You’re right ababout greed being an oversimplification. A corporation is a legal entity whose sole purpose is to provide as much value to its shareholders as legally possible.
If the Chinese offer Tyson a better deal (even $0.01 per pound) for processing than the place across the street, then Tyson is legally obligated to accept. This is why tariffs are so important. Those taxes eat up the “savings” from outsourcing and allow (incentivize, force, whatever) corporations to do business domestically.
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Yes in some ways. In the small view of things globalization seems like a perfect situation. And if it had been kept in check, I think it could have been. However, what we have done is basically created a fiscal drug addiction. Countries literally reliant/dependant on another. Becoming slack in their own markets, production, and so on. Outsourcing even the most mundane thing. For instance. It shouldn’t be cheaper for companies to send chicken, pork, whatever over seas to be processed and then sent back to the American market.
And our stocks reflect the haphazard style and dependence that we have created
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The problem we have is we do not have true east west trade. The Clinton admin royally screwed the US with their NAFTA agreement. They allowed the large corporations to write the rules. And of course they (the large corporations) wrote rules that benefit the large corporations at the expense of working people and the middle class. As a result, our largest export for the last 20 years has been manufacturing jobs that supported the middle class. In exchange we get cheap junk from China.
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NAFTA was horrible. Ironically, many union employees still sing its praises. How odd.
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Both of my Grandfathers are veterans. My father’s dad was Navy in WW2 And my mother’s dad was Air Force during Vietnam.
My father was Air Force for 25 years.
I was Army for 16 years.
And today I agree with you that under no circumstances should our kids join the military. It’d a sad truth that the military has become, honestly since Korea, an arm of the government to obtain resources and position our guns against Russia and China. It is not a Force for good anymore.
Sad but true.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by SpagsUnfiltered.
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Lots of great responses here, and I’ve enjoyed reading them. I’ll add my two cents lol.
Thinking back to the saying that has become popular again recently, ‘Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times’…it just rings true for me and what I see right now.
We’ve been the recipients of abundance and ease the last couple of generations, mostly because of the strong and resilient generations that survived the Depression and then WWII. We are now weak, as it were. Entitled. Thinking everything in life should be fair and easy, and well, it just isn’t that way. At least, it can’t stay that way indefinitely without strong attention, and we have been sorely lacking in that. I think we are seeing the end of those good times, due to our neglect and complacency. The ‘hard times’ seem like they are beginning in full force.
Combine this realization with the climate cycles and changes we are seeing, due to the Sun and other cycles, and it seemingly makes for a perfect storm in which I believe humanity as a whole is about to get a swift kick in the you know what.
It was written long ago, something to the effect of; ‘In those days, the people enjoyed banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat and the flood came and destroyed them all.’
Whether or not one is religious has little part to play in being aware of what is going on around us, and preparing for the worst. Too many still, seem to have no idea of the geo-political and climatological cycles we are in, and it puts them at great risk of being swept away.
I guess my two cents was a dollars worth of words, I’ll shut up now lol.
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I would ask that you don’t shut up and that you join the conversation all you want! This is a free speech zone and you are welcome to opine at your pleasure!
Thanks for commenting and being part of the Spags Unfiltered community!
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agreed, honest conversation and “argument” (in the proper definition of the word) is one of the things sorely lacking today. As a teen, I was known as the one at church that would ask questions and challenge, no so much for a specific answer, but to gauge how quickly the person would get angry and begin interjecting emotion into the “argument”, as it was a sure sign of how deep or wide of a foundation their house was built upon. One firmly and completely rooted, fears no wind, and yet remains flexible enough to make adjustments as needed.
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I do think that God favors one nation more and it ain’t the USA lol..Israel has promises. Also, the Bible does say Heaven and earth shall pass away…that’s just my thoughts âș Praying for everyone đđŒâ€
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Buying on credit should have never been allowed. Cash on the barrel or barter and trades only.
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Unfortunately, all forms of modern economic commerce require credit, or as it is more aptly called, usury. The practice of borrowing and finding investors isn’t such a bad thing, honestly most small businesses would never even start if it wasn’t for borrowing and investing. But what we have in the west is no longer a system of borrow and repay at a modest interest rate. Now we have monopolies that dictate rates and percentages and even penalties in a way that the common man has no control or say over.
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The state of my world is that I have accepted the things I can not change, and I am committed to changing what I can. I expect to buy some chickens tomorrow and see if I can keep all of them alive throilught the winter. My next project will be building a shed as soon as I can get over my reluctance to paying the county for the permit. I will spend this winter studying for my Permaculture Design Certificate and my Technician ham license.
For 2023, I will begin composting, I will plant a food forest in my backyard, I will try to het my hands on a guinea hoq or two, and I will NOT get lazy and let my garden die (again)! Lastly, I will make a consistent effort to quit being a hermit and try to build a network of decent people.
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A most excellent response. I agree that in spite of the best efforts of evil men, we do ourselves the most favor by learning to live outside of their control as much as possible. Chickens and a 4-season garden are my goals for 2023 as well.
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Decades back, I bought a book about the predictions of Nostradamus and he did predict the times we’re in now. He saw a third WW with bright flash explosions (whether they were the cyber-attacks or nukes was not apparent) and the fall of civilization. Now, how much any of that overlaps with the Bible/Revelation I’m not sure, (I’m not as well versed in the Bible as you all are) but, back then, we kind of jokingly said that WW3 would send us back into the stone age (if we were ever there). Lately, I find myself looking at videos about the Great Depression and the resilience of the people, helping each other and pulling together, something these days few possess and I see this as one of the major downfalls for this/any society besides the damage done by the government. There’s way too much head-in-the-sand and wanting the easy life mentality going around, people will be so lost. It took 10years and a war for this country to come back, but I don’t see it this time. This time there will have to be a major shift within the people themselves, if they want to ever make it, it will literally take a new generation starting from scratch to rebuild. I don’t know, maybe it sounds a little too much doom and gloom, but I also see a better world ahead of us, a world where we tell the government to shut their pie-hole because we’re not taking it anymore. I see us taking advantage of a blank slate. I don’t know If I’m going to make it, but I’ll sure damn try because I sure would like to be part of this new World.
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I love this response for one primary reason. I too believe that no matter how dark things become, we MUST look at things through the lens of opportunity. I fully believe that a free market approach to the incoming crisis will help many survive and thrive in it. I don’t see it as doom and gloom to acknowledge the state of the world and read the writing on the wall. That’s just due diligence.
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What I see is many possible futures and I suppose the bleakness or the brightness depends on one’s on perspective. As a prime example I can see the likelihood of Harris becoming president in 2023 to offset the republican victory of the midterms. This puts into play the pressure of being seen as a bigot or racist if you don’t follow along with her agenda. Now having a female president is something the country should be able to take pride in. However many of us would argue that having a qualified president is far more important than gender or ethnicity. As for myself … blue wave or red wave it’s the everyday American that gets swamped.
Another issue of importance is food shortages caused by climate change, corporate manipulation and government manipulation (if there’s a difference in the latter two) are forcing many to garden, forage, hunt, can food, learn trades and in general become more self sufficient. From my perspective that’s a wonderful thing. Not the cause but the result. The fact that many continue to deny the situation and will likely starve is very disheartening but the determination of many to become self sufficient is encouraging.
Be it the weather, government, God or all of the above.. change is coming. Be forewarned though… the government already sees the patern. If they hadn’t noticed or expected it then they wouldn’t be asking people to register gardens or be arming 87k irs agents.
Some see the upcoming election as a referendum of change. I believe the Republicans will win thus carrying the majority in the house and senate which will lead to many democrats suddenly becoming election deniers đ lol. I see that as only slowing the countries decline at best. If any politicians do actual accomplish fixing anything it will only give Americans the chance to go back to complacency, compliance and glutinous behavior. As pointed out previously no government stands forever, especially when the people follow that pattern.
My own hopes at this time are to keep my family going on and help others as I can. I have an older daughter and a drandaughter back in GA. Two older sons living with us in the Ozarks who plan to leave the nest soon. My two youngest, a 10yr old son and 9yr old daughter are still homeschooling. The older three learned to care for themselves as part of their curriculum but that was based on the “old normal”. They can cook, clean and handle basic repairs on home and auto which is more than many of their peers but I wish I’d taught them more. I did at least instill values as well as common sense and that can take them far. The two youngest kids are now learning along with me about food forests, foraging, offgrid technology and other more self sufficient, self reliant skills. The way I see it even if the world corrects itself my youngest two will be able to leave home, build their own energy efficient home at little cost, generate the power they need, harvest the water they need and provide the food they need as well as generate an income. If I succeed in that then they’ll be far better off then I and many, many others no matter what the world does.
It’s a peculiar thing to consider. In a more primitive time and in more primitive cultures those are the things kids were taught and mankind thrived. In a modern world everyone is taught to simply pay others for their needs and look where it’s left us. We’re facing hardships and collapse while many in third world countries will only experience a change on the calendar. Reminds of me of the Alabama song “Down Home” with the line… “somebody told us wall street fell, but we were so poor we couldn’t tell”.
I hope my rambling offers a little food for thought.
“I’d share my slave ID# but I’ve been advised not to give out my social”.
Brian Seago
@ AiNt-RiTe-Acres
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I love this reply buddy. And I agree that a red wave will be of little practical significance. The fix to the problem isn’t government and voting. It will be individualism, true free market capitalism, faith and community. A combination of these things is what we had coming out of the Great Depression, and it was that combination that propelled us to becoming the greatest economy the world had ever seen.
The catch is that becoming great almost always leads to laziness as greatness ushers in comfort. I don’t know that there is a way to combat that as mankind tends to seek out the path of least resistance.
All I know is that I am setting up myself, my family and my group to thrive in ways others will only dream about. I certainly believe that it shouldn’t just be the dirty bankers who succeed on crisis.
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The political left has enjoyed being the ones to have a turn holding power for only a relatively short term, but they have driven the nation straight into the ditch shockingly fast. Crushed the economy, bitter social divisiveness, wars we have no business being in, censoring speech, demonizing and/or prosecuting political opponents and on and on…
If the GOP takes both houses next Tuesday, I think the political pressure subsides somewhat. McCarthy and McConnell can reliably be expected to be the shot callers again and I have no reasonable expectation the GOP won’t sit on their hands just like they did the first two years of Trump when they held *all* the cards. The GOP simply will not *fight* like the nation’s survival is at stake. However, I think a GOP win will resurrect antifa/blm riot violence on steroids. The GOP will be scared to death of being labelled racist, fascist, bigots (whatever – does it matter?) to respond effectively.
If the dems re-run the 2020 election playbook with mystery ballots, ballot harvesting and “2000 mules” and retain control of congress, they will then *REALLY* start tyrannizing the nation. The political right will protest mainly online, not anywhere near as violently and chaotically as the dem’s antifa/blm brownshirts, and the left will see no reason not to do whatever they want. If they can blatantly steal elections, why wouldn’t they stack SCOTUS, ban guns, print another few trillion $$ and still over spend, legislate abortion as a federal right, criminalize hate-speech, create the ministry of truth — whatever their hearts desire.
And why wouldn’t the dems re-run that playbook? They got away with it completely unscathed last time. They likely see no disincentives.
Best case, I think the GOP wins and will disappoint by doing nothing of any substance. Worst case, the dems win and that enables them to fully drop their masks and unleash their inner marxist with reckless abandon. I truly hope I am completely wrong.
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One of my favorite commentators, Michael Malice, says this: “Conservatives are simply progressives driving the speed limit”. And he is right. I agree with you that a red wave will likely be far more counterproductive than productive for the very reasons you list.
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I’m on the side that does not believe the world will go out with a bang. Instead, I believe it will be a loooooong drawn out fizzle. By the time it happens, we will mostly be used to it. Boiled frogs.
What I don’t get is the goal? Run the world into the ditch and it cuts off all your production and the markets (which rely on consumers) will fail. People won’t be able to feed *ANYTHING* (money/production) up the chain. All that happens is that “they” will get to consider themselves “The Elite” or “The Boss”.
What else do “The Powers That Be” get out of it? All they will be able to do is perhaps micro-manage the lives of 8 billion people. And they will *HAVE* to micro-manage them to keep their gravy-train running. If they kill off all the people, then “who” will they lord over? Micro-managing people who hate you sounds mentally and physically exhausting to me — certainly does not sound enjoyable or fun… Especially when all those “little people” will become DEEPLY interested in gaming your systems or just dropping off your grid.
How long do you think you will play their game by their rules? Where’s my E-4 Mafia brethren?
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How deep do you want me to go down this rabbit hole? đ€Ł
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Best you play those cards close to your chest! Shammin’ the govt is chess, not checkers!! đ
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Rabbit Holes can be a dark lonely place!
By the way the Frog in boiling water is a myth. All amphibians are ectotherm (cold blooded) which means they will move to regulate their temperature. This is why when an amphibian is cold they move to a hot rock to warm up. You don’t see them staying there and frying on a rock. Quite the opposite they will move to shade or a hole in the ground to regulate their body heat. A frog will get out of the water that gets too warm for them. They will not stay there if you increase the temp slowly.
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- The Lord will destroy the earth with fire (2 Peter 3:7).
- Godâs wrath will be manifested in the last days of this fallen earth (Malachi 4:1).
- This present earth will be replaced with a new earth (Revelation 21:1).
- All the heavenly bodies will be melted (2 Peter 3:12).
Bible Verses About Destruction Of The Earth KJV
2 Peter 3:7 âBut the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.â2 Peter 3:6 âWhereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perishedâ
2 Peter 3:10 âBut the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.â
This world is going up in smoke, folks. Turn to Jesus and put all your trust in the “unseen.”
Matthew 6:19
âLay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:â
King James Version (KJV)Bless you all in Jesus name. đ
- This reply was modified 1 year, 12 months ago by JesusIsOurSaviour.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 12 months ago by JesusIsOurSaviour.
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So how do you all see this playing out?
Slow motion apocalypse. Things will unravel at a speed that 90% of the people won;t realize it until one day they’ll sit up in bed and go “OMG! What happened!” Then the real fun starts, because when times are good not being aware or engaged is survivable. In hard times, which I 100% think are on their way, it can be terminal. Watch for those very same people that are shocked…SHOCKED, I TELL YA!… to rally in the streets demanding in very high and screechy voices for the government to “Do something”. We won’t see the final fight for the soul of America for a while; probably not in my life time. Our mission, today, should be to prep the ideological battlefield for those that follow us. This is why Freesteading, and other places that are popping up organically are so important.
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In the coming days IMHO there will be escalated conflicts around the globe, terroristic attacks and people will suffer globally. Famine in some places and continued drought globally yet floods earthquakes and volcanic activity increase. Weather extremes will occur globally. People will be increasingly ambivalent towards political figures. They will be filled with confusion just looking for one to make thing better, putting them in a better place to be manipulated and deceived. And thatâs the good stuff. Donât count on the world or your crops or what you have stored away even though it is good to prepare. You must look to God for everything because the day will come when He will let you see that He is and always has been the Way The Truth and the Life. Not yet but it will be worse coming than anything you have ever seen or imagined. Some will be spared. There is no where to move. There is no where to hide out. So I say Love everyone do what you can for yourselves and your families and others when able. Pray for everyone. I know this is the speak your mind page not the religion page but all things are related and relevant. The earth may do its tilt in the next few years. Are you ready for that. I think not because no one can be. I prep for the not too distant future because of the gov and possibly another shutdown of some kind. Those things will happen just never sure when. And this is all IMHO
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