Water and Air are Vital
Water and Air are VitalPosted by DeepSouth on February 16, 2023 at 2:04 am
We all need water and air to survive. With the train derailment and chemicals going into the air and water, do you have a backup plan?
Water could be the easiest of the 2. Bottles water can be brought in. But just how much water does each family need a day? If you count washing, cooking and drinking, that adds up fast.
What about plants, animals, they need water to and bottles water wine last long when you add it all up.
Air is different, you can’t just bring in air in containers. That creates another issue. Stay or go. Move to a safe location until danger is past.
If you stay, do you have the supplies to filter your air?
As someone who stores things for what if, this is one that really has my brain thinking.
What would you do? Stay or go?TCam replied 2 months, 1 week ago 16 Members · 36 Replies
RuesMountainHome-RetaMemberFebruary 16, 2023 at 2:12 am
Monkey1MemberFebruary 17, 2023 at 3:50 pm
These ideas are from the comment section on theconservativetreehouse.com. Can’t verify, merely sharing; do your own research.
Highly recommend the site https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/16/norfolk-southern-says-they-accidentally-asked-east-palestine-residents-to-sign-legal-waivers-as-condition-of-contamination-tests/
Who owns that rail line?
Snellville Bob February 17, 2023 7:28 am. Reply to Lorrie Girten
“Norfolk Southern: Blackrock 6.914%, Vanguard 8.14%, State Street 4.46%, Total 19.51%
This is common for all woke companies.”
E@ElijahSchaffer on Twitter
“OHIO UPDATE If it doesn’t get WEIRDER than this! 3 months ago East Palestine, OH was at the center of pilot program to respond to EMERGENCY situations They gave digital ID’s FOR FREE to residents to track long term health problems like “difficulty breathing”. “
Although there’s alleged video of the inappropriately over-applied brakes melting down the wheels miles before the site, no one stopped the train. Coincidentally it derailed at a small tributary to the Ohio River.
Why did it happen?
Twitter. “NS Insider here
There was a bug that caused the wrong waybill to be attached to this NORFOLK SOUTHERN train.
When the engineer/Al breaking210 KB JPG mechanism breaked, the total weight of the train was incorrect, breaks were applied too heavily, wheels melted off. There is 1 developer who now works on hazardwaybill development. A chinese guy who can’t speak english. They have been systematically firing all Americans(White and Black) from middle management. In the past 6 years my team went from 90% American citizen developers, to 30% American citizen. Algorithms written by math PhDs from MIT are being modified and broken by rasheed who took a2 month code bootcamp and doesn’t understand basic algebra. Rasheed is managed by Sum Ting (father is high I ranking member of the Chinese Communist Party) with an MBA from Cornell.The railroad corporations are thoroughly ‘woke’,and rapidly deteriorating.
>Boeing replaces all developers with foreigners, planes fall out of the sky killing hundreds per
>Norfolk Southern replaces all developers with foreigners, trains go off the rails with hazardous
material killing millions and causing trillions of damage…”
“It’s not a health problem you whiners!”
CDC changes toxic exposure levels allegedly Feb 10
sharon goodson February 17, 2023 2:28 am
“The CDC update changed the lethal exposure from 100PPM to 100,000PPM. The lethal exposure level had remained the same for 17 years before the CDC decided to update the number just prior to the derailment, where highly toxic chemicals spilled or were burned off, leaving a chemical stench in the air nearly two weeks later.”
Screwed over by industry/ FEMA
JD Vance brought to light a waiver being signed by desperate residents exonerating the Unified lCommand of all liability for $1000 since FEMA has declared they are ineligible for support. When a copy of it was produced, the railway replied,” oopsie…that’s a mistake.”
Aggiegirl. February 17, 2023 10:03 am. Reply to CM-TX
“ ‘Unified Command ‘is an emergency management term, briefly per google:
Unified Command is a team effort process, allowing all agencies with geographical or functional responsibility for an incident, to assign an Incident Commander to a Unified Command organization. The Unified Command then establishes a common set of incident objectives and strategies that all can subscribe to.
I don’t see a spot for the “Notary Public” Seal and Signature…?
What a slimy attempt to skirt responsibility! “
This while Transportation Sec worries about diversity on construction site.
- This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by Monkey1. Reason: Trying to remove guys Twitter feed and can’t get it off! Frustrating!
Monkey1MemberFebruary 17, 2023 at 3:58 pm
Apologies can’t get guys Twitter feed off the quote. Sorry
Monkey1MemberFebruary 17, 2023 at 6:06 pm
Added info from NYPost-
Movie “White noise” 2022 Netflix: plot is train derailment w toxic gas. It was filmed in east Palestine Ohio w many townspeople playing extras.
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KramitDreamsMemberFebruary 16, 2023 at 4:47 am
We’ve made the decision to stay no matter what unless we are being drug out or our house is on fire. We worked too hard and having 5 kids with us moving isn’t an option. We’ve worked blood sweat and tears on our little patch of dirt and praying the Lord to place angels over our land and make it a Goshen, A safe place, a place of refuge. The Bible promises we will tread on serpents and I trust him at his word! Nothings gonna happen or can happen to us without God’s approval and I trust his will.
beccasuz513MemberFebruary 16, 2023 at 5:38 am
I live a minute from the Ohio River but not close to the train derailment. Our municipality uses well water but I drink bottled spring water regardless. They put too many chemicals in it and it is so hard with minerals that it ruins everything. I take care of my elderly mom so moving out would not be easy.
Thy-abundanceMemberFebruary 16, 2023 at 8:22 am
We were planning to leave and move to the states. I’m so blessed we didn’t buy the home in Tennessee we were looking at buying.
We thought we had the best water here in Hawaii but I’m not to sure. Every time it rains my plants get sick, and I lost a rooster yesterday out of no where. He would have been a year young. We have trade winds here and it works both way. Blows toward blows away. Lots of streaks and earthquakes starting again. We live up near volcano but it’s not erupting anymore.
We want to leave here and we’re looking at either
Tennessee, Indiana, N or S Carolina or Idaho but now we will just pray. Any suggestions Danny and Wanda.
I am also on my knees praying for everyone that is affected by this catastrophic event. It’s just horrible and I have no words that could help or comfort.
God bless all of you
Jesus make a way
Let us run this good race in FAITH
HE is faithful to HIS people
YankeeredneckMemberFebruary 16, 2023 at 9:41 am
What is it that you’re looking for in a state you choose? My feeling is that there are so many variables to consider.
Thy-abundanceMemberFebruary 16, 2023 at 9:10 pm
Been planning to move for three years now but every year there is more obstacles than path ways. I’m born and raised her and have traversed the world in travel but there is no place like home …ever!
It’s the cost of living in this deep blue/black state that has me wanting to leave. I love my home and have built a beautiful garden and farm but the cost and regulations have made growing food harder and harder. We even have what I call an over the fence regulation that you can’t share seed with your neighbor. I have been writing a growers diary and chart for many years and have never had weather like we have now. I also understand the atmospheric changes going on since I followed that as best I can for years. We went from no rain with 120 degree heat to now this day freezing and rain. I live at a higher altitude closer to volcano, and love what little I call cold 50’s cold but it’s raining hard makes growing challenging. I have a beautiful hoop house that was built built but it’s not enough. I’ll have another built if we stay and the weather stoops pouring. That’s a huge IF ?
I’ve looked and my biggest concern is the cold. So I’ve been looking for a home with a well, or alternative water source. Stream, creak a spring at a upper elevation would be wonderful maybe. Property with wooded forest I can cut trees for firewood and animals like hunt dear. I understand the growing season is even less days than I have here where I grow all year long. I have a nice big property that has an fruit orchard I made a priority to plant when I first bought.
There’s so much to consider as living in the tropics our greatest problems are always hurricanes and earthquakes since I live in the you youngest island that’s always growing. We were rocked in the 2018 earthquake that was a 6.1 just three miles from here. That’s when fissure 8 opened up and poured out thousands of tons of molted earth. We had absolutely no help from gov so the community pulled together to help those who lost everything when the volcanic lava took their lands and homes. Oh we had one representative come out hand out bottled water for some pictures and left forever. It was then that I woke and reprised we here are really on our own. Then again when we had the hurricane sit right off the side I live coast that gave our area sustained 75 mph winds in 2015 for hours and rain that fell 17 inches an hour no help either. We were told on the phone call us when the danger passes. 🤯
Sorry I digress. ….sorry!
I’ve gathered information and have been peeling of cons as I learn more. It might just be as Danny said…”there is no safe place”
I don’t want safe I want left alone and persevere.
I would love to continue fishing. Love that!
So my main concern is cost of living and laws allowing us to grow and have animals. Also to be able to grow hay for them and feed. There’s so much to consider but I am blessed for your answering my thoughts.
The more I glean maybe the more sound decision I can form.
Again thank you
Aloha from Paradise on earth
But paradise in constructive !
Ha ha ha
YankeeredneckMemberFebruary 17, 2023 at 11:06 pm
I get what you’re saying and the best I can do to help is say that Nc’s taxes are relatively low and have little restrictions on country living. The weather does vary from coast to mountains so you would need to look at grow zones within the state. Will pray that you find what you’re looking for.
Thy-abundanceMemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 9:32 am
Thank you Yankeeredneck
Your prays are helpful and words filled with wisdom
God has a plan and I will follow His Will
Thy-abundanceMemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 9:39 am
Hey what kind of 🎣fish is that that you’ve caught also? Way ta go!
YankeeredneckMemberFebruary 19, 2023 at 4:43 pm
That’s a Spanish mackerel. 1st one I’ve caught. Thanks
Thy-abundanceMemberFebruary 19, 2023 at 10:23 pm
Well than “congrats” dear fisher of fish
I’ve decided to stay planted also but maybe move to a different island or area. I sold my other home last year and own this home and realize after much research. “There’s no place like home”
Even though there is always struggles from being so isolated as an island and the last in the chain. I see it really doesn’t seem to matter where ya are after watching the feckless response of what’s became of the Great state of Ohio.
We have no help response here either after living through two hurricane, Hawaii’s most damaging earthquake which the media never told the truth to protect tourism, and a volcanic eruption that destroyed over two thousand homes and lives and all the gov did was spend one million on a road for a big D contributes farm that was cut off and make a safe place for tourist to view fissure 8. At least there’s family and friends here that pull resources and show up to always help.
I wouldn’t know anyone if I moved in these uncertain times. So I’ll continue to pray
If ya ever want to go shore whipping from beautiful Hawaii shorelines. Just let us know. You’ll have a promised blessed day fishing those tough fighters we have here.
Aloha from Hawaii where we had a full two nights of flooding here and a record again of 14” in less than a night. Of course in the area I live.
Talk about endurance building. 😝Ha ha ha
YankeeredneckMemberFebruary 20, 2023 at 3:44 am
I find it eye opening for myself that during my years in the rat race I taught myself not to fall in love with a house. As I aged I realized that I really hadn’t found a home, it was just a house. For the first time in my life I’m home on earth. My final and glorious home will be with Jesus hopefully. I also know that God sent us to this home for a reason. Time will tell what that reason is but I have my suspicions. I’ve found pease through my faith and trust in God which has taken fear almost completely out of my life.
With all that it’s time for me to hit the hay. Lots of garden work tomorrow.
Have a blessed day tomorrow and stay strong.
Thy-abundanceMemberFebruary 22, 2023 at 4:56 am
I agree with all you’ve expressed.
As I become wiser and stronger in my Fathers wisdom and strength in my own years.
I find myself as so few could say…”I have lived my life on paradise on earth and shall spend my greatest forever eternity in paradise in heaven with my Heavenly Father” well maybe others call there place Paradise also.
🎶What a day of rejoicing that will be🎵
So I press in daily trusting hoping and listening for His comforting voice and His caring guiding hand to show me His way.
Wherever my heart is so is His Will.
Lord keep you and guid you on your journey also my friend
All is well with my soul
YankeeredneckMemberFebruary 22, 2023 at 1:07 pm
AmpersandMemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 12:13 am
We are 60 mi from East Palestine Ohio. Where are we going to go where water and air are not allowed to be polluted and poisoned?
Monkey1MemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 12:48 pm
Sorry to read of your situation. I’ve got nothing except prayer to offer.
On the bright side- Once Trump announced he’d go to East Palestine next week, miraculously the FEMA snollygoster decided they qualified for funds. So coincidental…
AmpersandMemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 4:01 pm
It is not MY situation. It’s all of OUR situation. Go ahead and look into superfund sites, the amount of waste going into bodies of water intentionally, ground water contamination, soil contamination, deceit in air pollution, allowing toxic chemicals in food (our food is banned in developed countries!).
What do you think Trump’s presence is going to do? This country has decades of putting profits over people. A lot of people act like Trump’s their savior. I’m over it.
Monkey1MemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 7:31 pm
You sound understandably frustrated. I would be too. Not minimizing the National impact, but remark was meant to be empathetic to you specifically. Yes, we’ll all experience a hit one way or the other.
Trump isn’t saving anything/ anyone; merely an observation that FEMA at Biden’s direction reversed course to now offer aid to the region once Trump’s visit announced. Hopefully they will follow through.
gods-childMemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 1:22 pm
AbleGoodmanMemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 12:44 am
IMO, America’s biggest problem is a general public-wide illiteracy of how mediums of exchange (aka “money”) are supposed to function in a righteous society. IMO, it is cultural suicide to let “government” control the money supply. At the present time, we have an infinite amount of fraudulent and PROVABLY unconstitutional debt-based (a fraud) fractional-reserve (also a fraud) IMAGINARY fiat currency chasing around after REAL stuff that has been created by the REAL sweat and labor of REAL people. That is where all the evildoers who call themselves “government” get their power to pay their standing armies (cops & military) to enforce their tyranny on people who want to be free to pursue happiness and prosperity. For those who are interested, compare the TRUTH of Hepburn v. Griswold, 75 U.S. (8 Wallace) 606 (Feb 7, 1870) to the revisionist-history LIES of Legal Tender Cases (Knox v. Lee, Parker v. Davis), 79 U.S. (12 Wallace) 457 (1870) and Juilliard v. Greenman, 110 U.S. 421 (1884). See also “A Caveat Against Injustice:by Roger Sherman and “A Plea for the Constitution: Wounded in the House of its Guardians” by George Bancroft. See also the quote by Thomas Paine below.
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Monkey1MemberFebruary 18, 2023 at 12:44 pm
They’re a hard-ball group to come against. Central Bankers took out Lincoln and Kennedy for trying to reverse fiat cash. If Kissinger’s petro dollar ruse fails with the BRICSE consortium threatening a basket currency, we’ll be in hyperinflation like Lebanon w 90% devaluation of their currency in Feb. ‘23.
BakerHillFarmMemberMarch 7, 2023 at 2:53 pm
I love this discussion. It really gets you thinking. I honestly had never thought about filtering the air before the derailment. That is quite a mess isn’t it! Leaving everything to seek refuge somewhere else with hopes it doesn’t happen there or reach that area….that would be very hard. What about accessing clean food like we’ve been growing in another location? For me, I think that would be a point where I just trust the Lord to handle it. I would definitely do what I could to stay safe and care for my family, but you can’t truly be protected from everything. I would just do the best with what I had.
TCamMemberMarch 19, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Looking for water filter for shtf emergency. Research for hours but most seem to be for better tasting municipal water. I may need to filter rain or pond/ditch water. Any recommendations. Thanks.
SLINGSHOTMemberFebruary 17, 2023 at 5:50 pm
Seems like the corrupt CDC has a history of changing data whenever they need to. They did it often with covid. They should be shut down as well as the FDA.
DeepSouthBamaGRITSMemberFebruary 19, 2023 at 4:50 pm
@Sojourner Here is an article to support your statement on the CDC changing the info. For those that want to see proof.