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food for thought
how much mining and slave labour does it take to produce one [1] yes one [1] lithium battery that costs £thousands…?? for a solar set-up
is it not time we re-valuate our values to see if we want to contribute or continue to contribute to slave-labour and the destruction of earth
compare that to the same for traditional lead-acid or gel batteries
12v lead-acid and gel batteries can also be purchased for a fraction of the price of lithium and most folk do not know they can go to vehicle breaker yards also known as scrap yards and get vehicle batteries for a fraction of the cost of a new battery
and you may also save costs on other things such as cables and connectors switches lights fuses and more plus there could be other things and bargains to help save money for your homestead or mobile-home and-such
for example
where i live i can get second-hand 12v vehicle batteries anywhere from £10 ~ £40 each whereas one [1] new lead-acid battery starts at around £90 for a 60ah ~ 70ah wheres the higher the [ah] the higher the price
thereby if you purchase second-hand 12v vehicle batteries you would be saving them going in the landfill and saving lots of money
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looking at the high and low price scale for 12v second-hand vehicle batteries
lets calculate costs for a single battery
if second-hand only last five [5] years you can weigh them in get a few bob back or could likely do a swap for a good second-hand battery from the breakers yards or scrap yards or even second-hand vehicle dealers
£40 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £160 v £4,000 a massive saving of £3,840
£10 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £40 v £4,000 a massive saving of £3,960
the batteries may last longer as i have seen some folk that claim they are still using their 12v vehicle lead-acid batteries nine [9] years on
£40 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £80 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,920
£10 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £20 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,980
lets calculate costs for a battery-bank of ten [10] batteries
£40 10x is equal to £400 v £10,000 a massive saving of £9,600
£10 10x is equal to £100 v £10,000 a massive saving of £9,900
£400 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £1,600 v £40,000 a massive saving of £38,400
£100 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £400 v £40,000 a massive saving of £39,600
£400 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £800 v £20,000 a massive saving of £19,200
£100 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £200 v £20,000 a massive saving of £19,800
lest calculate a new lower end lead-acid 60ah ~ 70ah battery at an average £90 each
£90 is equal to £1,000 a massive saving of £910
£90 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £360 v £4,000 a massive saving of £3,640
£90 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £180 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,820
lest calculate a new lower end [ah] lead-acid 60ah ~ 70ah battery at an average £90 each for a battery bank of ten [10]
£90 10x is equal to £900 v £10,000 a massive saving of £9,100
£900 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £3,600 v £40,000 a massive saving of £36,400
£900 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £1,800 v £20,000 a massive saving of £18,200
lets calculate a 240ah new leisure battery at average price of £390
£390 is equal to £390 v £1,000 a massive saving of £610
£390 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £1,560 v £4,000 a massive saving of £2,440
£390 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £780 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,220
lets calculate a 240ah new leisure battery at average price of £390 for a battery bank of ten [10]
£3,900 is equal to £3,900 v £10,000 a massive saving of £6,100
£3,900 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £15,600 v £40,000 a massive saving of £24,400
£3,900 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £7,800 v £20,000 a massive saving of £12,200
the costs will vary for area to area country to country thus this is only a guide based on my sources and first hand knowledge
also cheaper quicker more environmentally friendly to replace for most and makes connections with those in breakers yards or scrap yards or even second-hand vehicle dealers
for those in remote areas you may be able to purchase online on places like ebay and have them shipped to you
open for discussion
does this make sense to you or do you have a different point of view…??
sources:
https://www.eenews.net/articles/u-s-shift-on-child-labor-may-scramble-ev-sector/
https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/china-lithium-ion-batteries-child-labour-us-trade-war
p.s
if my calculations are off please correct me as i am not good with math
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here are a few playlists on youtube that some may find beneficial that folk can watch at their leisure
battery parallel v series https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjwDksg5jYtI0J54nqiZZAuUOa_NlD3Xm
portable solar generators https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjwDksg5jYtIVvJ_9HhrjgWUgUd1XoO7y
solar https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjwDksg5jYtLSK2UfphMj2Unpb2xDG-h6
inverters https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjwDksg5jYtIHwZ7JUbD5yHyXNVed6i9B
top solar energy project compilation 2022 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAY30bf7ZN4x0yg28QVZSVXer4rRzP1hJ
hope these help
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what an awesome community helping each other without judgement
this is what it is all about 😃
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@MrSunShine ” Also, to all others who have read my previous comments, thank you for letting me participate and not judging me for my beliefs or lack thereof.”
you are very welcome
my comprehension is that we are here for each other no matter what “beliefs or lack thereof” and not to judge one another
as you can see it is very hard to get straight answers even from them that claim to be in the know
i wish you luck getting the answers you seek
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really no mother hmm pause for thought
you cannot have one without the other as that is not how life works as we need both
really you are going to heaves, says who as none of will truly know come judgement day
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to expand further @Woodsman on your comment
father mother forgive them as they know not what they say or do
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it matters because the fallen one’s [1’s] are the great deceivers as we all know as they corrupt man and beast alike
to name but a few
mammon
satan
moloch
lucifer
see http://angelicpedia.com/list-fallen-angels/ for more
they all have their part to play in this matrix for good bad or worse or complete-evil
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to quote @JesusIsOurSaviour from his/her own timeline some two hours ago
quote “Hebrews 4:12 KJV
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” verbatim
thereby s/he may have the comprehension of the meaning thereof and perhaps @JesusIsOurSaviour can elaborate on this meaning for us
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@JesusIsOurSaviour i am all ears, well eyes to read you debunk and disprove of king james i
and the sources that cite it like biblegateway and leicester villages
i am listening to your ferocity on this topic
ferocity (n.)
c. 1600, from French férocité, from Latin ferocitatem (nominative ferocitas) “fierceness,” from ferocis, oblique case of ferox “bold, courageous, warlike; fierce, savage, headstrong, cruel,” literally “wild-looking,” a derivative of ferus “wild” (from PIE root *ghwer- “wild beast”) + -ox (genitive -ocis), a suffix meaning “looking or appearing” (cognate with Greek ōps “eye, sight;” from PIE root *okw- “to see”).
what religion was king james i
was he christian catholic protestant or other religion or a converter of different faiths…??
see https://www.leicestershirevillages.com/king-james-i-of-england-a-life-in-religion/ for guidance on this topic
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king james was not a very nice man as history reports
that said
“Version Information
In 1604, King James I of England authorized that a new translation of the Bible into English be started. It was finished in 1611, just 85 years after the first translation of the New Testament into English appeared (Tyndale, 1526). The Authorized Version, or King James Version, quickly became the standard for English-speaking Protestants.”
source: https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/King-James-Version-KJV-Bible/
notice for protestants and not for christians or any other faith…??
and we know the history of protestants do we not…??
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the point you think or thought was not the intended point in all fairness as i did not think of it that way
that said would you mind if i take that point and add to the original intent now that you bring it to my thought process…??
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what trouble did you cause…??
i see interesting debate in all fairness
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wait no-longer
the real purpose is to clear up the ambiguous confusion that lays within the many versions and trans-lat-ions of said bible
my comprehension is there should only be one true version and trans-lat-ion which is non ambiguous to say the least
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somehow i thought that “Cavalry” is what you meant 👍
yet the ambiguity of miss-spelt words that become other non miss-spelt words rears their heads from time to time 😉
same here always willing to learn and grow
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for sure 👍