Mollison Permaculture: Confused old student here.

  • Mollison Permaculture: Confused old student here.

    Posted by packrat on August 10, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    Has anyone had episodic bouts of brain sprain while going through Bill Mollison’s Lectures? Udemy has a clear scan of the lectures up. I am paused at Mr. Mollison’s second video* has him recounting the susceptibility of various houses to fire. He states a Stone House will burn faster than a Brick House, and a Brick House will burn faster than a Wooden House.

    AutumnDawnEndeavors and others that may have gone through Mollison’s Permaculture Design Course, this hurts my head.

    *’Life Web’, at about 54 minutes in

    NicoleSauce replied 9 months, 2 weeks ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Hippocrates_Garden

    Member
    August 10, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    I’m not a udemy subscriber but looked and didn’t see this lecture, do you have a direct link?

    • packrat

      Member
      August 11, 2023 at 12:45 am

      The gateway to the udemy course is here:
      https://www.udemy.com/course/permaculture-design-course/
      It routinely goes on sale for under twenty dollars–patience will have it for less than the sixty or seventy list price. I have not found the analog of this particular lecture on any of the free sites. The old grainy vhs lectures from Mollison I’ve seen elsewhere are decidedly more staid than these I’m encountering.

      • Hippocrates_Garden

        Member
        August 11, 2023 at 12:58 am

        Yeah, I found one that was titled “structures”, I Swear he was intoxicated..

      • packrat

        Member
        August 11, 2023 at 1:24 am

        I mean, it’s blasphemy to question Mollison. A podcaster I’ve listened to has all but elevated him to Patron Saint Status. However, and to your point, this one does have its share of political incorrectness/dirty grandpa type elements, and what I believe to be outrageous whoppers as anecdotes.

        • This reply was modified 9 months, 3 weeks ago by  packrat. Reason: clarity
      • packrat

        Member
        August 11, 2023 at 6:45 am

        Mollison: “Stones, stones? What about stone houses? Yeah. We all know about them and uh, your grandmother’s told you this:

        “A lot of times, people who live in stone houses shouldn’t throw glasses.

        “Well the Scots would say, stone houses not for vodka drinkers.

        “Stone houses are notoriously fire prone. And in the uh, ‘67 fires they all burnt down in Hobart.

        “Brick was next because they conduct heat so rapidly inside.
        And wood (houses), I am pleased to say, have much higher survival, Six times better than stone or brick.”

        Woman: “Why? Why is that?”.

        Mollison: “Have you tried to light wood? Sit there blow puff puff puff, another bit of newspaper and God the bloody stuff Will not light you know, you know that. It’s not, not if it was out of wood. A white painted wooden house has the higher survival of any, anything the wild fire…Yeah it conducts heat very fast, it’s cheap though.

        “I used to do, I love rammed earth, it’s cheap. It doesn’t matter if it burns down, you know, you can always, you know, dig the house up and ram it again.”

      • NicoleSauce

        Community Leader
        August 11, 2023 at 2:41 pm

        Perhaps he means the insides burn because of the heat conductivity? I live in a stone house and everything INSIDE is finished in wood…?

      • packrat

        Member
        August 11, 2023 at 3:13 pm

        Yeah. I’m trying to make it something like that in my head. It’s just one of a series of anecdotes that, on this video at least, comes out of the blue and then we get on to the next Thing, without explanation. There are some grainy old tapes of him floating out there where I remembering him staying much more on topic. And the text he wrote is good, information dense on the subject at hand.

      • NicoleSauce

        Community Leader
        August 14, 2023 at 6:14 pm

        😀

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