Frankenfoods

  • JerseyGiantChick

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    November 21, 2022 at 4:44 pm

    Can not wait for all that good stuff.

    • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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      November 21, 2022 at 8:38 pm

      Sad though, those who can’t afford any wholesome food will buy this stuff.

  • Maytag

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    November 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    Horrifying…

  • KimC

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    November 21, 2022 at 10:55 pm

    I saw a report over the weekend that they’re starting with fake chicken first in higher end restaurants, and then will take it more mainstream as the cost is over $7/pound to begin with. Then today I watched a report that said they are now contaminating cellulose with the nanoparticles (presuming that means/includes hydrogel and such). Cellulose is used in a lot of things including supplements and grated parmesan cheese, among many other products, mostly as filler. I have wondered how much longer I can continue to purchase certain things that I can’t produce myself. Unfortunately, I think that is being answered for me now. I also heard that they’re trying to phase out the term GMO and replace it with “bio-fortified.” It certainly seems that reading—and understanding—the labels more carefully than ever going forward will be more critical as time goes by. God have mercy on us all!

    • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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      November 24, 2022 at 3:23 pm

      Yes, I think this is just the beginning and will only end in all lab grown food supply. I’ve already seen the “bio engineered “ on labels.

      Absolutely disgusting.

    • J.w.oldner

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      November 26, 2022 at 7:04 am

      There are some evil people out there and they will not be satisfied until they have everyone enslaved to them. We must bind together even more as this happens.

    • Grampa-J

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      December 11, 2022 at 8:28 pm

      Even with reading the food labels you may not get the whole story thanks to the food lobby. For example, GMO labeling. In the US Bioengineered is the term. If a particular food uses a refined ingredient that is made from a GMO source, but, does not contain any detectable protein by a PCR test it is not required to carry the bio engineering labeling. Another issue is that there may be things in the food that do not make it to the label. There are many things that can be added to a food recipe during manufacturing and if it does not have a function in the finished product it does not have to be labeled. It is considered a processing aid. Antifoaming and flow agents can be examples of this. Manufacturers will vary as to how strict they are with labeling or not. My personal POV is that if it is in there it should be labeled.

      • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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        December 12, 2022 at 3:48 pm

        Yes, you’re absolutely right, if it doesn’t make a min amount, it doesn’t have to be labeled. But worse yet, only few people read and research what’s on the label. If they would, less would buy processed foods.

        Simple solution, if you can’t read it, you shouldn’t eat it !

      • Grampa-J

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        December 12, 2022 at 6:26 pm

        I’m with you 100%

      • Redcap

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        February 3, 2023 at 2:49 pm

        You don’t get the whole story with food labels even before GMO and synthetic food came along. The USDA nutrition labels are based on the raw ingredients, not the processed foods. Cooking/processing changes food. Cooked ingredients often have lost all of their vitamin C, although cooked greens’ vitamin A actually increases. There’s no use looking at labels. Best to just eat real food. 🍎🍓🍳🥦

  • JerseyGiantChick

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    November 22, 2022 at 3:39 pm

    So busy to buy stuff locally from farmers, for Kindergarten en school.

    To secure our children’s food, all natural organic food.

  • MartHale7

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    November 22, 2022 at 4:39 pm

    It has taken me time to move to non-gmo, organic. The more that I have researched health, the more I like growing my own, or buying from someone I trust. The plandemic has pushed me to increase the size of my garden, and to increase my pantry ( insurance policy)… Slowly I am finding more and more food that takes low input, and gives a yield back. I don’t trust those who grow food with profit only in mind.

    • JerseyGiantChick

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      November 22, 2022 at 5:30 pm

      Good for you, keep on preparing and gardening!

      We are still lucky that people do not recognize vegetables, see how long until they steal over here to. I will plant nice stuff to, that they will never steal again.

      I hope the time that they steal from their own children and our next generations will not come. As a mother myself, I will not remain ladylike.

    • KimC

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      November 23, 2022 at 5:49 am

      Hi Mart. Will you please give a few examples of foods you’re growing that require few/low inputs yet still give a yield? You may have come across some things that I have yet to discover and I’d love to learn about them. Thanks! Kim

      • MartHale7

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        November 23, 2022 at 6:16 am

        I am in zone 9a Florida, so my list may differ than yours…. This paper is one of good ones for here in Florida ->

        But I also have been moving into Tree Hay, Mulberry trees are easy to grow and their leaves can feed livestock.

        True Yams, cassava, sweet potatoes, loquats, tree spinach, banannas, Moringa trees, are the mainstay of what I grow that is easy for this zone.

      • KimC

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        November 23, 2022 at 6:41 am

        Thanks for the timely reply and the link/document. Much appreciated. I’m in zone 9b in central California and have tried a few of the items you listed. but without great success. I’ve never seen a mulberry tree for sale anywhere here. I have heard they can be very tasty (at least certain varieties). I’ve never heard of Tree Hay, by that name. May have tried tree spinach a few years ago, but it didn’t make it through our colder winter temps. Neither did Moringa, but I may try it again and see if I can bring it onto the covered patio to help it survive through winter. It does well till it gets too cold. Last year my sweet potato yield was fairly decent considering my limited space, but this year it was quite pathetic. We did have extreme heat this summer and lots of early ups and downs with the temps that impacted most of what I grow, except the leafy greens, which seemed to survive pretty well. It’s already been quite cold here overnight. Last night was 35 even though the forecast was either 37 or 39. Seems too early for that and may not bode well for us through the end of December and into January/February, which are usually our coldest months. I’ll look over the document and maybe find something new I can try out. Thanks again!

      • PapaFarmer

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        November 23, 2022 at 11:57 am

        we started a few moringa trees. So far they are about a foot tall. Hopefully they will grow fast and stay healthy here in N Fla.

      • MartHale7

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        November 23, 2022 at 1:59 pm

        Frost will take them out, but they come back from the base. I am near Ocala Florida, there is an Moriga farm here. But I have 8 of them.

      • HilltopHomeplace

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        November 26, 2022 at 8:56 pm

        I’m in southeast Louisiana. Thanks so much for this list.👍

    • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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      November 24, 2022 at 3:27 pm

      You’re absolutely right, even the “organic “ is not organic as they claim it to be. I try to grow as much as possible, but I’m so not there yet. If everyone would grow at least some of their own food, the industry would have to change.

      • KimC

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        November 25, 2022 at 8:59 pm

        Agree 100%

      • JerseyGiantChick

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        November 26, 2022 at 7:34 am

        You are so right, to secure our natural food and the seeds for the next generations and future. If we all make our own seed bank, and so all seed banks together we have the largest and most world wide seed bank. And also the possibility to work with the official seed banks all over the world, to save all seeds possible.

  • MartHale7

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    November 22, 2022 at 4:41 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPt0QxuoN4A

    Steve has deep insights on food.

  • JerseyGiantChick

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    November 24, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    Today someone told me proudly, he made a good deal on readymade meals. Because someone he knows works there, he will get a discount. His girlfriend does not like too cook, takes to much time and effort. His mama like to cook, but she does not like to eat that.

    Maybe the will like the new taste, if she is not allergic to man made meat and insects protein all that cood stuff.

    I will just kee on doing vegetables and buy potatoes and eggs from farmers. Take a chicken or rabbits to pet.

    • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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      November 26, 2022 at 1:49 pm

      The problem is that no one knows the long term effects on the body of lab grown foods. Just like GMO s, no one knows wha It really does.

  • JerseyGiantChick

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    November 26, 2022 at 2:01 pm

    A frankenstein maybe?

  • c563

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    November 26, 2022 at 2:15 pm

    Hi yall, new here. Keep reading labels, and they are getting harder to figure out what is in them. My rule: if I can not figure out what it is, I will not buy. Mostly try to get whole organic & clean 15 foods. I know organic does not mean as much as it use too.

    No way I am going to buy/eat man-made meat.

    • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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      November 26, 2022 at 2:22 pm

      So true, good rules. I also noticed that the fond of the labels is getting smaller and therefore harder to read, it’s probably on purpose to keep consumers from reading the label in the first place.

  • KentuckianaAgorist

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    November 26, 2022 at 3:32 pm

    Just jumping into this discussion, the new GMO term is Bio Engineered Food Ingredient. Its not the same and they’re putting it in everything! Graphene Oxide

    • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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      November 27, 2022 at 1:46 am

      Nestle is one of the biggest offenders, graphene oxide in almost everything. But it’s not the biggest problem, though, as GO is being cleaned out by the liver, I believe. That’s probably the reason why the need all those boosters.

      • KentuckianaAgorist

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        November 30, 2022 at 1:08 pm

        Nestle also puts aborted fetal tissue in their products as flavoring. So i stay away from their stuff.

      • Summerhat-n-Chicks

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        November 30, 2022 at 11:02 pm

        👍

  • KansasTerri

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    December 15, 2022 at 4:31 pm

    Nobody knew that veggie burgers were incredibly high in saturated fat until over a year had passed. I actually have NOTHING against lab-grown meat, I just want the OTHER guy to be the guinea pig until we know if they got it right (like iodized salt) or if they got it wrong (like veggie burgers)

    • Grampa-J

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      December 15, 2022 at 5:38 pm

      I haven’t been able to find complete comparative nutrient analysis between the lab grown and conventional meat. Sure it’s protein but is it nutritionally equivalent. The nutrient value will depend upon the culture media. Analogous to industrial strains of vegetables grown through factory farming methods with lots of fertilizer compared to heritage strains grown through traditional regenerative practices in healthy soils. Many nutrients tend to be lacking or missing in the former.

    • FaintlyArtistic

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      December 15, 2022 at 6:02 pm

      Well, saturated fat has been villified by the governmental alphabet agencies for years, and look where that has gotten us…

      I would rather have the saturated fat off of a good, grass-fed hunk of beef than the garbage produced in a lab. Just sayin’

    • KimC

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      December 15, 2022 at 9:37 pm

      Both Dr. Mercola and Children’s Health Defense has done many reports and written several articles on lab created meat, including one titled “Lab Created Meat: Investors Love It, But Scientists Question Safety” by Martha Rosenberg on June 27, 2022. Here’s a link to a key word search on CHD’s site: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/?s=lab+created+meat. Dr. Mercola only leaves his articles up for 48 hours now due to censorship, so you’d have to search his substack archive to find his. He talks about how it’s created with a lot of junk and questionable things including the bad fats that he claims are the primary issue with the poor health of Americans these days, etc. Might be worth checking out.

  • KramitDreams

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    December 15, 2022 at 9:44 pm

    I worked for an organic company and only 70% of the ingredients listed have to be what they consider organic to have the “organic label” so no they are not 100% organic. 30% is whatever else is listed and somethings are not listed.

  • DrumminSon

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    January 5, 2023 at 6:44 am

    Probably taste like chicken…

  • Peachlady22

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    January 17, 2023 at 10:47 am

    Now we know why there are suddenly many outbreaks of bird flu, poultry buildings burning and spiking prices. Setting us up for the rescuers to come in and provide “better” more environmentally friendly foods that we can’t produce. Now to scare everyone into demanding we get rid of our backyard birds, bird flu in a (1) human.

    • Maranatha

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      January 17, 2023 at 12:18 pm

      The Hegelian Dialectic. It’s being used so often, and the masses can’t see it. My backyard birds are going to become more and more valuable as time goes by.

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