Stockpiling Medication
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Stockpiling Medication
Posted by FortElswyrFarm on October 25, 2022 at 3:55 pmDoes anyone have an online pharmacy they recommend for stocking up on medications and antibiotics? I had ordered from one last year and they were great, but I can’t find any records of where it was. 🙁
JulieDogmom replied 1 year, 7 months ago 23 Members · 56 Replies -
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I’ve heard good things about jasemedical.com, but have not ordered from there yet myself.
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I have the Antibiotic pack from Jase medical as part of my preps. It was fairly straight forward to get and shipped very quickly. A bit spendy, but worth having in your preps.
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It doesn’t look like I can just pick a medication and order it without going through a doctor visit and prescription.
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just out of curiosity, I went to the website and scrolled down. They list the included antibiotics and some “sample prices”. for the Cipro which they show as 28-500mg. Cipro is a single drug, not a combination, thus it appears you may get a 28mg (I don’t even know that exists) up to 500 mg. The referenced prices are exceedingly high, as goodrx has 14 500mg for like $8, meaning 24 tabs would be $16. This borders on price gouging because they advertise essentially to preppers.
I’m an RN, though I’m pretty much disgusted with our so-called “health care” system. I’d highly suggest first, checking prices with your pharmacist (or at least on Goodrx) and then bring your concerns to your primary care provider. If you are not comfortable talking to your primary care provider, why do you go to them?
I don’t know, this just makes me nervous, but we are all independent free people, so.
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Please no Cipro. AVOID ALL FLUOROQUINOLONES! They now have a black box warning for serious complications like Achilles tendon rupture, rupture of the aorta, psychotic episodes, suicidal ideation. If you don’t get these, you can wind up with MS like symptoms or chronic fatigue. They disable mitochondria and can stop the reproduction of mitochondria. The effects do not go away for the vast majority and even one dose can cause this problem.
https://regenerativemedicinela.com/fluoroquinolone-toxicity/
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I was given Cipro once. Never again. It made me want to hurt my grandson
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My coworker took Cipro one time for a tooth infection. She got the Achilles rupture from it. She’s had an awful time with it.
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Azithromycin/Z-Pak put me in AFib, yet I had taken it many times before.
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I’ve heard good things about jasemedical.com, but haven’t ordered from there yet myself.
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The only online pharmacy that I’m aware of that prescribes medications to stockpile is Jase Medical. Exactly what medications are you looking to stockpile? If you have any chronic medical conditions that require routine medications, one option is to be honest with your healthcare provider by explaining your concerns and your request for an extra prescription for a 1- to 3-month supply that you can pay cash for. I’ve found that many providers (doctors and nurse practitioners) are understanding and willing to accommodate. If your provider is for sure willing to do this for you, you can also try requesting what we call empirical antibiotics (and possibly antivirals). I would even go as far as asking for written instructions and recommendations for when to take them in the event you can’t get in touch with them. Worst case, they say no. Oh! Many clinics get samples from pharmaceutical companies, but these are usually newer drugs and no generics the market yet. What over-the-counter medications have you stocked?
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Alldaychemist. You can get whatever you want,just takes about 3 to 4 weeks to get here. Ignore when they ask for prescription or drs name. I got all the hydroxy chloriquin I want,ivermectin and backed all types antibiotics. Used them numerously last two years,very reliable. Drugs come from UK or India. Reasonable prices. Insulinhub.com also will let you order but much more expensive.
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I was not aware of Alldaychemist. Thank you for the information. They appear to be pretty reasonable too. When was the last time you ordered from them and what type of meds did you buy, @NYPDRET2160 ?
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Hey guys, sorry for late response. Ive ordered in the past month.
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All day chemist says you need a prescription. The prices are cheap. How do you get around needing an Rx?
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Love ADC. Had one lost shipment which they replaced. Loaded up on IVM early on.
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Every type of antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxy chloriquin. And backed up all my VA meds incase they run out. You can just about order anything except narcotics which goes without saying.
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Ok. Got another question. Are the tablets/capsules marked/stamped with an identifier, also called an imprint code? I’m a medical professional which is why I’m asking this.
For example, Ivermectin 6mg is supplied by Merck as round white tablets with “MSD 139” on one side and a score (to break if needed) on the other side.
Another example, Propranolol 10mg is supplied by Amneal as round orange tablets with “10” on one side and “DAN 5554” on the other—supplied by Vintage as round orange tablets with “V” on one side and “54 82” on the other—supplied by Sidmak as round orange tablets with “SL 467” on one side and blank on the other… and so on…
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Great question. I would also like to know. Has/have the manufacturer(s) been verified?
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@culdesacgrocerygarden The main thing I worry about is whether or not I’m getting what I’m paying for.
I know some people will buy the “fish antibiotics” to store, but I’m hesitant to do that, because I know there’s a chance for contamination with salmonella and other pathogens that would not be good to deal with in a less-than-desireable scenario. I also know how antibiotics are created and that they’re sensitive—so I don’t want to buy antibiotics that are inactive due to extreme heat/cold or sat on a shelf in some warehouse for the last 2 years and not good to me when I do eventually need them (say 4 years down the road…making them 6+ years old).
I will intermittently ask for “just in case” prescriptions and put them away for storing, but you have to be careful asking for those too much. And some providers just won’t prescribe some meds just because they don’t think you need them. It’s a difficult work-around to say the least, even for me as a medical professional. So I can’t imagine the difficulty for some people who don’t have connections in the medical field or access to an understanding provider.
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Understand your concerns. Had good experiences with ADC. Not saying there will never be a less effective generic brand shipped, but in general, potency and effects are in line with any US dispensed goods.
Caveat: In Congressional hearings way back, then head of FDA admitted >85% of all drugs sold in the US were wholly or partially made overseas. They inspected less than 10% and relied on Pharma to “alert for problems.” If you query international drug companies and percentage imports to the US, most of ours come from China and India. Basically everything is coming from overseas specifically Asia.
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I’m a PharmD. All medications are marked with a code, even veterinary and fish antibiotics. Vitamins and neutraceuticals are not.
All drugs including veterinary drugs are made in the same factories as humans drugs, just the labels are changed.
Almost all penicillin is made in China or India.
If you can help it never, ever take a drug made in China. They are notorious for adulteratation. India has had issues in the past also.
The majority of our drugs are manufactured in the UK/Ireland, and Germany under strict controls.
The problem with treating infections is we don’t always know which bug we are dealing with. Not all antibiotics are the same.look up drug sensitivity charts for your area to get a little help in a SHTF scenario. Otherwise always go to the doctor.
Never take cipro with a steroid. That’s the interaction that causes the rupture. I argue with providers about it often. Children under 18 should never take fluoroquinolones.
Tetracyclines have an expiration date. They will physically degrade into a harmful substance. They should not be given to children until all permanent teeth have erupted.
NEVER EVER take a tetracycline with a penicillin class drug. They antagonize each other and cause treatment failure. I argue with providers about that one also.
Augmenting has some issues with liver failure. New studies have been coming out.
Penicillins still work for most strep infections.
Macrolides can cause QT prolongation and afib. If you are taking other drugs that can do the same, don’t take together without an EKG.
If you are allergic to Penicillins you may also be allergic to cephleosporins.
Clindamycin can cause C-diff infections. If you are taking it, and experience severe diarrhea, stop immediately!!
Metronidazole can cause a disulfuran reaction. Never, ever take it with alcohol. Don’t even wash your hands in alcohol or cook with it. We used to give it to alcoholics so they wouldn’t drink.
Certain antifungal and antibiotics are inhibited by a low acid environment. If you are taking proton pump inhibitors, or H2 blockers, or Tums or other vitamins like potassium, magnesium etc. The drugs won’t be absorbed.
That’s your pharmacy education for the day. If you don’t like something I said, do your own research before arguing with me. Show me the latest literature regarding the issue. Be sure there are no conflicts of interest in the studies you present.
A rule of thumb is to never take a drug less than 10 years on the market. It takes that long before we know all the side effects.
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All medications come in blister packs,marked by manufacturer and dosage amount. Most of the stuff you get in the pharmacy is made overseas.
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Awesome! As long as the meds have identifiers on them, I’m good with it being made overseas. The FDA is a racket anyway. Thank you, @NYPDRET2160 !
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Side note: I just realized I said I was fine with it coming from overseas and that it sounds terrible…LOL!!! Unfortunately, some things have to be purchased outside of the US, medications apparently being one of those things. 😕
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That was my concern. I would be fine with meds from India or Israel but not China. Does it say the country of origin?
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Sometimes you can tell origin, but not always. Remember China provides childhood vaccines worldwide.
The main issues we may see are shortages of common meds. Now with all the City-wide lockdowns in China, their manufacturing is coming to a halt. There’s already shortages here of children’s amoxycillin. I suspect many other common things will disappear as well. At one time most of the psych meds came from India, I don’t know post CV.
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<div>Med shortages are apparently occurring worldwide. German hospitals complaining.</div><div>
</div><div>“Supply bottlenecks are increasingly causing grave problems, including in hospitals,” the head of the German Hospital Federation (DKG), Gerald Gaß told the Funke media group.
The situation is particularly serious for antibiotics, cancer drugs and emergency medication for heart attacks and strokes.”
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</div>https://www.dw.com/en/german-hospitals-warn-of-medication-shortages/a-64128381 -
The drug problem in the USA is worsening. Apparently India is falling short to fill delayed/absent drug issues as they rely on China for components.
Latest info:
As our Davos friends well know, cutting down even basic medical care like antibiotics to the populace reduces numbers quickly via benign neglect. The dependent ones; diabetics, dialysis, transplant recipients, etc., will just go away. I envision this statement: “No need to get our hands dirty,” Klaus. Thanks for your patriotism to speakers like GA Gov. Kemp, and B. Stelter (pureyor of all truth).
Canada is now offering euthanasia to the disabled who can’t get govt. housing and children without parental consent. Could we be next?
Has the AMA started on the fast track to implement Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel’s Complete Lives System snuck in under Obie? (BTW he’s Rahm’s brother)
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I have used the hydroxychloroquine and t
ivermectin when I was in the company of infected people. Never got sick. Recently a good friend of mine was sick as a dog, I put him hydroxy chloriquin 2 tablets a day for 5 days. The 2nd day he was on it got out of bed and went hunting. I have not even had a cold in the last 2 1/2 years. Also take vitamin C, zinc, quercetin ,resveratrol, turmeric and D3
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I used them too- the ones for humans. Unfortunately I ended up with long- cv but hey, I didn’t die! I have friends who didn’t make it. They went to the hospital and Im convinced that is why they didn’t make it.
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So sorry. Dr. Pierre Kory has been treating people for both the after-effects of CV and injection injuries. Greg Hunter (USAWatchdog.com) has interviewed him several times. He says they have had good results with their treatment protocols. Might be something to check out? You can search his name (or any other interviews) on the USAWatchdog.com site. Greg has interviewed may very knowledgable people about the topic. Be blessed, healed and made whole in Jesus’ name. Kim
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FLCCC.org was created by Drs. Kory and Marik. They have been on top of things since the beginning of this mess. They have weekly Zoom updates on Wednesday night
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If you might be going on vacation, you can ask your doctor for an extra 30 day supply of your current medication. They are allowed to do this and it does not hurt to ask.
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I would be afraid of Fentanyl poisoning. Jus’ sayin’ 😬
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Not an answer to your question but I wanted to put out a caution….
In a “One Second After” situation, you may want to find alternatives such as herbal remedies. There are many herbs that can be used in place of antibacterials, anti inflammatory, antiviral, anti fungal, anti hypertensive, etc. and can be prepared for a long shelf life.
Many prescriptions don’t have a long shelf life and can become unstable.
I realize this recommendation will not be well received by all but I wanted you to be aware that there are alternatives.
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Go to Rain Country on YT. She puts out numerous videos on this matter. Her latest is, “The Cost of Being Healthy” with many links to specific healthcare alternatives.
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Army did a study way back during Desert Storm to determine the shelf life of drugs past expiration dates. The majority of tablets and capsules remained good to take. Tetracyclines, suspensions, and injectables are the exception. Keep all your old drugs. Don’t throw them away. The expiration date is usually the date the Rx expires unless you are given the stock bottle. The expiration date is how long the manufacturer studied it and can guarantee it’s effectiveness.
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I’ve gone several different routes to stockpile most of the regular medications I currently take as well as antibiotics that will be needed during SHTF.
1. I sat down and had an honest conversation with my doctor (the only one I trust to do this with, not all doctors) about my concerns about future potential shortages and worldwide economic events and asked if he had any ideas that could help me potentially build a backup supply of my medications. This was especially helpful because right now one of my medications is in extremely short (almost nonexistent) supply. Thankfully I have a decent backup supply, even though I know at some point it will still run out.
2. I researched for a very long time about how to get supplies of certain medications, including antibiotics, from reputable sources that don’t require prescriptions. This was before Jase Medical came out and now Contingency Medical who does the same as Jase. I found some pharmacies overseas (not China) and in Canada where certain medications can be acquired but that was back when the shortages were just beginning and I was concerned that any orders might get stuck on a ship off the coast or going through customs. Canada is still an option if you’re willing to chance it. I’m still considering it when I have available funds.
3. I learned about acquiring antibiotics to “keep my pets healthy” and the dosing etc. and I did start stocking some supplies of these. They are a less expensive alternative and work exactly the same because (as I learned from the kids’ vet) they’re essentially the same exact medication. Only the dosing is different. It’s not difficult to research this and possibly make your own little medication reference guide to have on hand when you need it.
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The only concern I have with animal antibiotics is that they don’t have to adhere to the same standards as human antibiotics. (Okay, I admit I’m not even sure Big Pharma adheres to ANY standards of safety anymore.) So the antibiotic portion isn’t the problem, but the fillers and binders that may not be so good for humans. That said, my daughter is a vet tech and she said if there was nothing else, she’d take them and I know I would, too, if I really needed them.
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Animal antibiotics are the same antibiotics for humans, made by the same companies. There is no difference. As always, it is your choice what to do concerning yourself and your family.
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Many people buy fish antibiotics. According to some people they are the exact same antibiotics humans use. See Patriot Nurse below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaL4fLXXEJg&t=106s
- This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by jboutlaw.
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For your pets, Wal-Mart PetRX sells antibiotics in different price ranges and in various strengths. You can see them at: https://www.walmartpetrx.com/ bp-11632-aqua-mox-amoxicillin-.aspx?SearchTerm=Fish%20mox+Auto
Some need prescriptions from your vet, but some like common antibiotics don’t require one.
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My son took Cipro at age 25 and was in constant pain and on pain killers for the next 7 years of his life. He’s better from the pain but his brain will never be the same. Cipro is kept around because it’s the treatment for anthrax. But it and one other are only two available of a class of antibiotic that the FDA already banned (and is completely banned in other countries). It is now classified as absolute need only – when a very strong antibiotic is needed and it’s the last resort.
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My mother was given Cipro 8 years ago for a kidney infection and has never been the same. Constant nerve pain and anxiety attacks. Before Cipro she had no health concerns at all. She was a healthy 65 year old and wasnt on any medication at all. Her life dramatically changed and many days she can hardly endure the pain. Needless to say she will not take another prescription and spends much of her energy on trying to find alternative remedies that might relieve her even a little. IMO Cipro or any of the flouroquinolone drugs should only be used in a life or death situation. Many many people have been harmed by them.
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I’m so sorry about your mother. It’s a crime to have taken my son’s quality of life at age 25 and a crime to take away your mother’s golden years completely. And it’s 100% the antibiotic. For most of the time he was in pain, there was no official diagnosis for his condition so insurance kept balking at providing any help. He went to a pain management center and the doctor said he could absolutely help him EXCEPT he couldn’t because he did not have a diagnosis box to tick. So my son continued to suffer until “flouroquinolone toxicity” was recognized as a diagnosis. He never got any compensation from the pharmaceutical company. I hope your mother is being helped, at least, by insurance.
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Thank you, I am sorry about your son also. My mother will not go near any mainstream drs as they are basically just pharma sales reps anymore. She has a good chiropractor who she trusts and a massage therapist who helps some but insurance only pays so much for alternative care. I am learning herbalism myself for the main reason of trying to help her and protect my family from something like that happening to someone else.
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