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questions seeking answers to clear confusion
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questions seeking answers to clear confusion
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“First of all, I’m sorry for some of the hateful responses you’ve gotten here.”
thank you kindly, i guess our true almighty creator father mother will decide what to do with their authors come judgement day
“Secondly, I’ve heard a lot of these questions before and can assure you that there are reasonable, logical, and biblical answers for all of them. But it will be easier for me to answer your questions when I’m on a desktop and can c&p, as the app won’t let me in this app. Until then,”
i am seeking true answers from those that know the truth and not from some biblical answer
i take “c&p” to mean copy-and-paste answers from some-other-place-entity rather than from you own comprehension of the babel in the bible known in modern times as ambiguous language or in other words “spaketh in tongues”
“I have questions for you for clarity sake:
1). Are you atheist or agnostic or hold another philosophy or religion other than Christianity?”
does the church judge by whether man is religious or not given that there are many religions and non religions and our true almighty-creator accepts all who come to them with non judgement of any-kind…??
thereby whether or not someone is religious or not maketh no relevance here in church
“2). Why do you use little g for “gods-child”?”
this has no relevance to questions being or not being answered and is personal and non spiritual or pertinent to answers being sought from [The Church]
“3). Do you genuinely want our answers, or are you posting here simple to try to dissuade Christians? The church is for Christs body and those who are truly seeking Him. The church IS the gathering of His body.”
does the title of this thread in a forum called [The Church] not be crystal-clear of intent to clear-up-confusion and to use your words “for clarity sake”…??
is the church not a place to seek answers to the ambiguous meaning of the word in the bible due to mans many translations which are al copyrighted by man and who are to say those translations are true or not true after-all we do know that satan is the greatest deceiver of all
are you saying that our true almighty creator does not accept any-one that is non-christian…??
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that only christians are dissuaded by questions being sought to clear-up-confusion…??
from all replies bar two thus far i would turn away from [The Church] never to look back towards [The Church]
p.s
for avoidance of confusion i take “clarity” to mean
clarity (n.)
c. 1300, clarte, clerte “brightness, radiance; glory, splendor,”
bona-fide
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“You misunderstood/assumed incorrectly what I mean by c&p… i meant that I would c&p *your questions* to be able to answer clearly for formatting purposes.”
then you clearly see the ambiguous nature of words and phrases which add to the confusion thereof
“The Bible IS the truth. If you don’t want that you don’t want truth.”
which version of the bible is “the truth”…??
as i need the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth doth-suffice no-matter how hard a pill it may be to swallow for some
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“My other questions have absolute relevance.”
please clarify for avoidance of doubt why those questions are relevant
“But as you have made it clear that you are not interested in seeing the truth and simply are asking for me to tell you what you want to hear, which is asking me to commit a logical fallacy, which I simply can not do- I will not be able to entertain your further.”
please screenshot and provide the evidence for your claim whereby i allegedly made it clear in this whole thread that i allegedly are not seeking the truth
“And NO- the church is NOT meant for all religious beliefs. It is for the true believers in Christ only and we are called to expose and expel those who sneak in among us. Good bye.”
is [The Church] of man or of our true-almighty-creator father mother…??
if [The Church] is of man then that would be correct
if [The Church] is of our true-all-mighty-creator father mother then you would be mistaken as our true-almighty-creator father mother accepts all who seek the truth
as for this cancel-cult-ure that is your prerogative and your free-will
that said would our true-all-mighty-creator father mother cancel us who seek the truth…??
is it not said in scripture that our true-all-mighty-creator never judges and accepts all who seek the truth…??
if you think you have hurt my feelings then think again as it hath non bearing on my feelings at all
bona-fide
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For real. 😂 Got us all dizzy with that. God bless you and yours. 🙏✝️🌅
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“Got us” …. Implies you seek support. Shows you are doubting your attack. No one else; to this time, has stated confusion from my words … only you have. Funny, you said ; earlier, you wouldn’t read my many words for there were too many and therefore I had too much time on my hands and you said because of that; in which you judge me, that I should repent. This shows you seek to make me look bad or less than you. As if you are all knowing. This actually shows you in a bad light. This shows you are making this all about you. You best stop! It can only escalate. Stop. Stop now.
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well said brother
as we both know that only our true almighty creator is the one and only judge
and all of us will be judged come judgement day where there are only two judgements to be made, either come on in as the pearly gates open or go away and be sent to hell with pits of fire and brimstone if i interpret correctly
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Actually, I rebuke the devil and watch demons flee. I don’t know what you’re speaking of.
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Actually it doesn’t have to escalate. All you gotta do is breathe, and trust Jesus and plead the blood. He’s not in your thoughts, clearly. It is finished. 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁
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Sorry for the delayed response to you question / comment …. This kind of conversation invites many to spew their own thoughts, beliefs or opinions …. Or simply put; certain topics – everyone has something to say. Because they know what they know and you do not know what they think they know and they do not know what you really know?
For those that do not know, or not “in-the-know”: those that know do not speak, and those that speak do not know.
If we speak; for the right reasons, do we know? Or are seeking to know? Is it our place to spew about a guess? Is it our mission to preach to others as if we are in the know? Or our we all seeking to learn from one another? We need not learn “the word” exactly from another. Often, the learning environment creates more questions within us all and sometimes sparks wisdom in us by triggering deep thought. Does the truly ignorant or retarded become condemn to hell for being other than a studious student of the “book?”
Some push to see the “light” while others humbly live and learn if not by the path they find themselves on in life. Do we condemn the man who waits until his last breath? Or is the “My son is an honor student of the Bible” the only way I to heaven?
Again, we have more questions than answers. Shouldn’t we always be in question? Or must we truly believe In the false peace of mind one receives from reading the Bible and thinking ….. “ I read and understood the Bible and therefore I am? “. It isn’t enough to be an “A” student of the Bible. Therefore is it enough to blindly have faith?
It is not our place to doubt first before we believe. No book is going to be a road map or a pass. Do you not think a non believer can stand before God and not enter into heaven? Hopefully we know not that answer.
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wait no-longer
the real purpose is to clear up the ambiguous confusion that lays within the many versions and trans-lat-ions of said bible
my comprehension is there should only be one true version and trans-lat-ion which is non ambiguous to say the least
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Jumping in here! Here’s what I think the “point” is …. To create one ( you or other people ) simply to think for themselves, and not be blindly lead. Is it not good to converse? We are all guilty of thinking with no words given for those in your life. We assume and we keep our mouth shut in fear of rocking the boat or stepping on toes … God forbid if someone “unfriend” or “blocks” us. It is never a good thing to “ go along, to get along.” Speak your peace… always.
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Amen sister. ❤️👑✝️
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You are on target.
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In my opinion on a way it is: Personally, if you do not wish to swear on the Bible for an oath – don’t do so. To do so is saying you agree. I would think you could agree on an oath with or without swearing on only one choice of “book.”
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the point you think or thought was not the intended point in all fairness as i did not think of it that way
that said would you mind if i take that point and add to the original intent now that you bring it to my thought process…??
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King James Version man. Simple.
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Okay, that is the most sense you made in this post. I agree with your last comment. Take care. God bless you all in Jesus name. There is One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. (Ephesians) no need to be confused, God is very clear in His Word. 😃
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king james was not a very nice man as history reports
that said
“Version Information
In 1604, King James I of England authorized that a new translation of the Bible into English be started. It was finished in 1611, just 85 years after the first translation of the New Testament into English appeared (Tyndale, 1526). The Authorized Version, or King James Version, quickly became the standard for English-speaking Protestants.”
source: https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/King-James-Version-KJV-Bible/
notice for protestants and not for christians or any other faith…??
and we know the history of protestants do we not…??
bona-fide
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That has been disproven so many times. 😂 you don’t know how long I’ve had this conversation. Time to get in that Bible, and actually become God’s child. Because the real children, WILL call you out. I pray this hits you because of someone was talking to me in this ferocity about the truth, I’d shut up and listen. Listening…… A beautiful skill, common sense……. Also useful. Jesus didn’t come to bring peace, but a sword. I’m outside witnessing to people who are broken on the streets today. And you? Enough. Doctrines of man are not the Word of God. Jesus is the way. Follow Him.
He’s the only way out of this confusion.
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Every man is fallible 😂😂😂. That’s exactly why we don’t do this!! We GO TO GOD!!! What God did for me, I have no reason to be upset. I hate wickedness, so I call it out. If that bothers you, ask yourself why. “Search me God, try me” David in the Lion’s Den. Try it sometime.
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@JesusIsOurSaviour i am all ears, well eyes to read you debunk and disprove of king james i
and the sources that cite it like biblegateway and leicester villages
i am listening to your ferocity on this topic
ferocity (n.)
c. 1600, from French férocité, from Latin ferocitatem (nominative ferocitas) “fierceness,” from ferocis, oblique case of ferox “bold, courageous, warlike; fierce, savage, headstrong, cruel,” literally “wild-looking,” a derivative of ferus “wild” (from PIE root *ghwer- “wild beast”) + -ox (genitive -ocis), a suffix meaning “looking or appearing” (cognate with Greek ōps “eye, sight;” from PIE root *okw- “to see”).
what religion was king james i
was he christian catholic protestant or other religion or a converter of different faiths…??
see https://www.leicestershirevillages.com/king-james-i-of-england-a-life-in-religion/ for guidance on this topic
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“jesuslsoursavior”. You left ( I assume )the conversation when challenged; only to return after a long time away from the conversion when most had ended the conversation. You did this ( it appears ) to respond to comments one after the other all at this later time when most people signed-off. This clearly is a cowards response and a self-centered way to debate or communicate in a very one way manner to avoid a rebuttal. It ;once again, shows you seek how you look to others, and not an engagement in a battle of words. Time stamps show your cowardly actions. Don’t waste your time saving face.
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No no no hahahaha we left because we are literally attending the church on the streets. Please stop with all this nonsense. You’re not correct. That’s all I got to say to you. I don’t feel I need to say anymore. I left scripture. Let all your conversation be in Christ Jesus, all else corrupt communication. I’m as bold as a Lion, I left because it’s a dry well and when you preach the gospel and if you or anyone does not receive it, the blood be upon your own head. That’s not an opinion. That is the truth. Whether you like it or not. Stop with the chit chat. Give me chapter and verse.
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to quote @JesusIsOurSaviour from his/her own timeline some two hours ago
quote “Hebrews 4:12 KJV
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” verbatim
thereby s/he may have the comprehension of the meaning thereof and perhaps @JesusIsOurSaviour can elaborate on this meaning for us
bona-fide
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That’s all your opinion, and you’re entitled to that. There’s no facts to anything you said man. Sorry you’re bothered by the truth, don’t argue with me. Talk to God.
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Why does it matter what apostasy some one may or may not have been apart of if it has nothing to do with MY SALVATION? People WHAT JESUS DID ON THE CROSS – BLED DIED AND ROSE AGAIN FOR YOU AND ME – WHEN WE DON’T DESERVE IT. PLEAD THE BLOOD.
IT IS FINISHED.
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What you preach isn’t yours to preach. You are an empty vessel. You know not your ignorance.
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Take truth in your statement you already made prior to going against your own statement, and tuck tail.
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it matters because the fallen one’s [1’s] are the great deceivers as we all know as they corrupt man and beast alike
to name but a few
mammon
satan
moloch
lucifer
see http://angelicpedia.com/list-fallen-angels/ for more
they all have their part to play in this matrix for good bad or worse or complete-evil
bona-fide
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To who. Do you speak? To whom are displaying your false self appointed mission not yours to be the righteous one.
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to expand further @Woodsman on your comment
father mother forgive them as they know not what they say or do
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Filled with the Holy Spirit there’s nothing more that I need. Rivers of Living Water. I rebuke you Devil, and all your schemes. We don’t wrestle against flesh and blood. I don’t have a tail, and I will definitely not listen to you or any man that’s not anointed and not preaching scripture. You said ZERO scripture. You said ZERO truth, I will not listen to you or your made up private interpretations. The enemy raises up people who like to have the last word. But guess what….. MY GOD IS THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING! Hah God bless you in Jesus name. And seriously, peace be with you. I said my piece. Time to bring in the harvest. Hell is never full. Heaven is for the True Soldiers.
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Now you know who the devil is …. You’re a fool. Go away!
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You don’t pray to any mother nor saints nor angels ONLY THE FATHER I don’t know what you’re talking about but that’s not what the Bible says and that’s not what we were commanded to do. I’m sorry but the world has clearly deceived you in some deep apostasy and honestly, I’m done here, I don’t see any, um, well truth coming from either of you.. The wheat will be separated from the TARES….. No man will tell me anything. God is my Shepherd.
Hope to see you in Heaven. That’s where we will be.
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It’s actually really bad for you to call people names. The Bible says it’s not wise to call people fools. It doesn’t hurt me, it hurts you, and your personal relationship with your first love. (God) ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
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The enemy used you in this conversation. Wolves in sheep’s clothing. What are you doing here? What is YOUR purpose? If it’s not for God then it’s for the Devil. Peace be with you. It’s only in JESUS! A carnal mind cannot eat spiritual food if it rejects it so quickly! Lord have mercy!
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You practice proselytism. See you going to hell.
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really no mother hmm pause for thought
you cannot have one without the other as that is not how life works as we need both
really you are going to heaves, says who as none of will truly know come judgement day
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Your act of proselytism is evil. Again, good bye. You seem to fail to understand the word stop and go away. I need not have my in box filled with your crap. I need not out others over your inabilities.
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@MrSunShine ” Also, to all others who have read my previous comments, thank you for letting me participate and not judging me for my beliefs or lack thereof.”
you are very welcome
my comprehension is that we are here for each other no matter what “beliefs or lack thereof” and not to judge one another
as you can see it is very hard to get straight answers even from them that claim to be in the know
i wish you luck getting the answers you seek
bona-fide
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Everyone has their own free will to choose to believe what they want. Don’t slander my name, because that’s not right. Don’t assume, because the Bible says not to. God bless you in Jesus name. Amen.
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You’re very angry…. Sorry about it. Praying for you to find peace in God. 🙂
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The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ the Saviour of the whole world! Amen! This is written. This is the truth. Your blood be upon your own head if you do not take heed to the word. It’s all written. Welcome to Revelation. End Times. (I say this to everyone, and I’ve never had anyone respond this way) The truth will set you FREE!
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@JesusIsOurSaviour when you say quote “don’t slander my name” end-quote to whom are you referring to…??
slander (n.)
late 13c., sclaundre, “state of impaired reputation; disgrace or dishonor;” c. 1300, “a false tale or report spread maliciously; the fabrication and dissemination of false tales to discredit someone,” from Anglo-French esclaundre, Old French esclandre “scandalous statement,” alteration (“with interloping l” [Century Dictionary]) of escandle, escandre “scandal,” from Latin scandalum “cause of offense, stumbling block, temptation” (see scandal).
It is attested from mid-14c. as “action or situation that brings shame or disgrace;” late 14c. as “a bad situation, evil action” and in reference to a person causing such a state of affairs.
for your information
folk can read and make their own minds on what every member has typed in this thread and can make their own minds up on each of us
that said those that are right with our true almighty father mother have nothing to fear or worry about, nor do they make themselves look guilty of anything that they percieve themselves not to be guilty thereof
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It’s an Almighty Father, for sure. God bless you in Jesus name. Peace and grace be upon you and your family.
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