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Marketing Elderberries
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Marketing Elderberries
Posted by CloudsHomestead on September 13, 2022 at 7:27 pmI’d like to start selling some elderberry cuttings once the weather cools off here in SC. Is this something any of you might be interested in? I’m just trying to get a feel for the market. This selling thing is VERY new to me.
Emil replied 1 year, 8 months ago 23 Members · 54 Replies -
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My wife and I would.like to get some but did not know where to get them. They are good for.lots of things. This would be a great idea for.you.
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I’ll check on any restrictions on shipping them and get back with you. Thanks!!!
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Thanks for the encouragement! It is much appreciated. I see you are CarolinaCarefree. Are you in NC or SC? I’m in SC around Myrtle Beach. If you need some plants maybe I can help out.
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I’ll check on any restrictions on shipping them and get back with you. Thanks!!!
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I’m not trying to step on toes but I have been growing cuttings from a beautiful elderberry near my home In Northwest Indiana for the last 3 years and it doesn’t disappoint. I assume I’m the only person that knows about this particular plant so I went and named this cultivar after my son Declan. I get about a 90% success rate starting them in water just past the first leaf node. It usually takes a week to start getting swelling and then shortly after that the root(s) will begin to pop. Then I just put them in a gas station fountain drink cup with some fluffy potting mix until I can put them outside. Pick the flowers off the first year and then the next year these things put out huge flower/fruit clusters. If you ever want some let me know and if I impeded on a sale here I would be glad to buy some from somebody else to remedy that.
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Thanks for shaving I got cutting last year. And haven’t had much time to read up. The info will be very useful!!!!!! Thank you
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Let me check on restrictions on shipping and I’ll get back to you. Thanks!
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I would be interested if you can ship to TN. I bought a plant last year not realizing you need two to propagate.
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I’ll check on shipping there and let you know. Thanks!
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?? Not from cuttings, maybe for pollination and seeds? They are so easy to do from cuttings and that way you know exactly what you’re getting as they are essentially clones.
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I had one in the backyard of my house that I sold, it was loaded. The next nearest one I am aware of, was several blocks away. Given the option of anything fruit-bearing, I’d prefer at least one other, preferably a different cultivar that flowers at the same time, but the same will work.
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Thanks for your response. A few years ago I purchase one from a local nursery. They only had the one variety and never mentioned that two plants or two varieties would be better, or potentially required. Mine has never done much, and has never bloomed. Last year I had it moved and put in a 15-gallon pot in hopefully a better location. No clue if there are any others in the area. I’d be surprised if there were (in the suburbs). Do you think I’m wasting my time trying to get something from it? I have no space to add a second one. If I’d known that at the time I purchased it I could have reserved space, but now other things have been planted and are better established and productive, and I’m maxed out space-wise. Thoughts? Suggestions?
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They are native & grow wild here (coastal AL). I had only one HUGE TREE for several yrs that produced prolifically. There were no others close by that I was aware of but then again, I’m surrounded by 100’s of acres of woods so one could have been out there somewhere, but not close enough to cross-pollinate. How big is your elderberry tree/bush now?
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Here is a pic of my “MOTHER TREE” (I’ve since taken several cuttings to make more that I’ve got planted all over the place so the birds will have more berries to steal from besides my big tree).
This mother tree is 16-18ft tall. The ones I planted a couple of years ago are 14-16 ft tall. But these are not propagated varieties you get from nurseries or online. These are the native, wild ones here. I do have two I got online about 5 yrs ago and they are barely 12-18 inches tall. One is called Johns & the other is Adams. They were sold as pairs since they best pollinate each other for better production. They haven’t done ANYTHING here. In 2020 I rooted several cuttings. I planted them in the fall of 2020. By March of 2021, they were 3+ ft tall. end of March 2021 they were 8ft tall and June 26, 2021 they were blooming & had berries. See 2nd set of pic’s #1 to see how much they had grown! By 2022 (last summer) they were HUGE TREES and FULL of blooms & ton’s of berries that literally broke some of the limbs from the weight of the fruit. Didn’t completely break all the way thru & I’m going to be pruning them all hopefully this weekend. I will be rooting all of the pruned branches (cutting into smaller pieces) to have more plants. I barter with other people with my elderberry plants. Or I give them to friends. I’ve mailed many small rooted plants to friends in other states & they are growing VERY well.
Not sure if mine do so well because I planted them at the bottom of a slope where the soils stays rather moist. Our soil is very acidic, too. Plus I fertilize them all with just rabbit poop and EVERYTHING I fertilize with that grows like crazy!
Pic’s:
1-Mother Elderberry Tree HUGE!!
2. Elderberry 4 months old after being in ground)-March 8, 2021 that was planted in Nov 2020
3. Elderberry at 4 months old (in the ground)- March 8, 2021
4. Elderberry at almost 5 months old (in the ground)-March 26, 2021
5. Baby Elderberry rooted in spring 2022 & bloomed that summer 2022 STILL IN POT.
6. Baby Elderberries rooted in water then transplanted to pots & kept in filtered sun. These are about 4 months old. The one flowering is to the right about middle ways up from bottom. -
Pic’s continued:
1. Date on pic June 26-2021 so THIS was size of the 5 babies I planted fall of 2020. Approx 7-8 months after planting in ground. I stood in front of trees so people could see how tall they are. I’m 5’5″ tall and part of the tops were cut off.
2. 2022 Same 5 Elderberry planted in fall of 2020-1st half of pic-Couldn’t get them all in one pic.
3. 2nd half of pic listed above.
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Thanks for the photo. I had no idea they could get that big!!!good to know!
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It isn’t very big even though it’s probably four-plus years old. It has been pruned to remain bush-like and not a tree due to space restrictions. Originally it was in a corner, but the other trees have grow too much and shaded it, so last year I had it pulled up and put into a 15-gallon nursery container. It didn’t have an extensive root system, so should be fine there for quite a while. I moved it to a different location hoping it would do better, but last year it mostly adjusted to the move (I think). If necessary, I can always move it again if it doesn’t like it’s current spot. I’m hoping this year it will actually grow and maybe at least bloom, if not produce. I can’t remember if I got it in late 2017 or early 2018, but it’s been long enough now that I thought it should have done something. Could have been too much shade though. It did have it’s own drip emitter, so it wasn’t from lack of water (or shouldn’t have been).
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I’ll check on any shipping restrictions and get back with you. Thanks!
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I would be interested. I am in the most NE TN. I bought two from a company and they did not make it. I also can not find anyone near me to propagate some for me.
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I’ll see if there are shipping restrictions between here and there. 😁
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we would be interested in cuttings as well if you are going to start selling elderberries are supposed to have lots of good qualities
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I am interested in buying several cuttings of Elderberry. Let me know, please.
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Yes indeed! I was waiting on the app. I was having some trouble with the website on my phone.
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I’m in an area in coastal AL where we have native wild elderberries growing all over the place. I’ve rooted hundreds in water, wrapped the roots with damp paper towels & put in a zip-lock bag and shipped with no problems. People sell them on Etsy and even some YouTubers so as far as I know there must not be any restrictions for shipping. I’m not going to be any competition for you as I’ve just shipped to friends.
Some tips you may want to include are how to root cuttings. It can be tricky as not all will root, most do but you have some that won’t. Keep the water changed & keep in a sunny window or location while rooting. Some people just plant the cutting in the ground. It is a hit & miss with them actually rooting.
If you are going to send ROOTED cuttings, I suggest they plant them 1st in some very light growing medium in a pot to establish the root system so they can recover from the shock of shipping. I like to root mine well before planting in the ground. I also use just rabbit poop for fertilizer when planting. I also plant in an area that can be somewhat damp all the time but not standing in water continuously as they will develop root rot until they get well established. THEY LOVE DAMP GROWING CONDITIONS, THO!! I planted 5 4-month-old rooted cuttings the fall of 2020. The summer of 2021 my elderberry trees were towering at 10-12 ft tall and I actually had a good harvest of berries. This year I harvested and dehydrated 6 gallons & one quart (finished product) of berries from those 5 trees that are so tall now I’ve got to prune this spring. Limbs actually broke from the weight of the berries!! I didn’t harvest all of the berries, either as other fruits were in season for harvest and I had to tend to those, too.
I don’t mean to tell you how to do your business but offering growing tips (either from just cuttings or rooted cuttings) will save you a lot of questions from buyers as well as some not knowing how to tend them and want a refund if they don’t grow or take root.
You may also want to print up the quick, simple recipes for making syrups & tinctures with the elderberries. I add tumeric & ginger to mine for additional medicinal benefits as well as local raw honey (after it cools) for sweetness since elderberries can be very bitter.
Good luck with your business venture here as it looks like it is well received!
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Thanks so much for all your suggestions!! I will definitely use your suggestions!! I really appreciate it.
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It looks like I could ship the cuttings anywhere. I’ll get some packaging and get started now that they have all gone to “sleep” for the winter.
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How exciting! I’m also interested in purchasing your elderberry plants. I’m in WNC. I look forward to connecting with you. Thank you and good luck.
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They will be cuttings. I can’t ship plants. I will however ship rooting instructions with them.
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We have elderberry’s and when I trimmed them I always save some of the cuttings. I usually sale them for around $10 a pcs. They go quick at that price. What type of elderberry’s do you have. They are a couple different kinds.
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I cut mine too. Mine are rooted from wild stock. They produce well and the juice is fabulous. So… I don’t know the specific kind, just Sambucus nigra. 😁
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I bet it’s more likely you have your own version of a sambucus canadensis which is better than sambucus Nigra in the sense that the berries can be consumed raw because the precursors of cyanide is negligible in them. If it’s wild then you have your very own cultivar that you can name too😎
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I planted several elderberries maybe 5 years ago. They have grown like crazy and bloomed, but never matured fruit. Do they just take a while to produce or might I have a pollination or mineral issue? Thanks.
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Elderberries produce fruit sometimes the first year and reach full production within 3 years. They thrive in rich loam soil that is slightly acidic. If they bloom but produce no berries its most likely a pollination problem. Elderberries are partially self-fruting which means they may set fruit but no very much. Make sure you have at least two Elderberries within 40 to 50 feet of each other. Some require cross pollination from a different variety to have a full crop. Insects can also cause problems before the blooms open. We have had an incidence or two where birds have apparently eaten the blooms just before they open. We thought it was likely the birds were after insects and took the blooms out finding them. Anyway, Hope this helps.
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Did you purchase them online or get local wild native ones in your area? I rooted several of my own my my mother tree that grow wild and native to my area. I actually had some still in pots rooting that bloomed & had a few berries. The ones in the ground I planted in the fall of 2021 grew to over 12-15 ft tall by the following summer (2022) and I had a mother load of berries. Last summer from those 5 trees I harvested & dehydrated 6 gallons & one quart (Finished product) of berries.
You may either have a pollinator problem because if they flower (they also have great medicinal properties) they will produce berries.I bought 2 trees/bushes online 4 yrs ago and they are still no more than a foot tall and have not produced anything, not even flowers yet.
All of my elderberry trees are planted in a damp moist area as they love moist soil once they get established. They can even take standing in water once established. All I do for fertilizer is use rabbit poop when planting and once a year, when I think about it. I’ve found those that grow best (even in the wild) are in ditches or near a water source so that told me they LOVE and need water to really flourish…I’ve got living proof of that with my trees.
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I have a clump of elderberries with probably 20 plants within 15 square feet. They are on irrigation. Yo mentioned PH. That may be the problem. Our soil is somewhat alkaline. I’ll try some sulphur on them. I saw in another post yo have subtropicals like cassava and other things. We should compare and swap some starts in another month. I have been collecting subtropicals for years.
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My soil is very acidic here so you need to add sulfur, leaf mold (best is composted oak leaves), vinegar or even citrus fruits (use these two in moderation). Mulch your elderberry grove with pine needles or the composted or ground-up oak leaves. Do you know your PH level? Don’t go hog wild & pig crazy & overdo it as it could destroy some of the other vital & beneficial nutrients plants need to thrive. 6-6.5 is ideal. Sulfur is slow acting so if you add that now along with some mulch it could have time to be acidic enough when they flower/fruit by mid to summers end. Not sure what zone you’re in so yours may flower sooner than mine.
Yeah, we need to msg what we have to swap. I’m always growing or propagating something new that isn’t supposed to grow in my zone!! LOL!! I love proving people wrong! -
I’ve been using 20% vinegar for weed control. I’ll apply it around the elderberries. I’m in 9a. I have lots of dioscoria, katuk, surinam cherries and lots of other things.
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