[LoneWolf]

it is entirely possible, that the term “invasive” was created to promote fear of nutritious, medicinal or useful species, for profit. Stephen Harrod Buhner, & others, have turned us on to questioning the narrative of BigAg, Chemical, GMO, pesticide, herbicide & other DRUG PUSHERS. A garden that duplicates a forest floor, with it’s deep roots/loam, leaf mold & fungi, mycorrhizae, “cover crops”, earthworms, etc, might be a different way to look at things. God thought of everything!

[Garden-of-Grace-Homestead]

I like your way of thinking!

[Pukalani-Farm]

I agree 100%

[RandyWhittaker]

Red clover benefits are nitrogen fixation and weed suppression. It will re-seed itself. If you want to help honeybees, plant white clover instead – the bees can get to the nectar/pollen in white clover, but the red clover blooms are not shaped such that the bees can get much out of them. They will absolutely cover up a patch of white clover.

[Garden-of-Grace-Homestead]

So weed control question…. we plant the clover in the fall, it grows and prevents other weeds from spreading. Then, when ready to plant the garden, do you just till it into the soil? Or how does that work? Sorry for so many questions. Newbie on everything here! Well kinda. This is my third year having a garden tilling and working the soil. Just discovered permaculture and want to transform our garden. I just need to convince my husband that he doesn’t need to till anymore!!

[LoneWolf]

some would say to lay cardboard in pathways. You can lay them over a cover crop…

I’m not sure if you have heard of “no till” farming. Continually laying leaves, spoiled mulch hay, grass clippins etc, might negate the need for tilling. Make happy worms come and live. They Will Do Your Tilling…”Sock the shit to it” as my grand dad said……tilling has it’s place. But, it ALWAYS encourages more weeds in the end. There are no rotor tillers in a forest. Yet, look at the Trees The Heavenly Father is growing in HIS garden!!! warm hugs my friends

[LoneWolf]

You could simply distract him with the film, on bitchute, called Agro Rebel, about Sepp Holzer, the grandpa of permiculture in Austria. Then, stealthily remove the spark plugs from his tiller, and make a clothes washer out of it.

🙃💨

[Garden-of-Grace-Homestead]

😆😂 Now that sounds like a plan!!! Eventually, he is going to come around to my way of thinking!! His health ain’t gonna let him continue to till or plow very much longer. I’ve sectioned off a part of the garden for me to start building up the soil and I told him not to touch it!! It’s an experiment. He seemed to be ok with that. Bless him!!

[Foxy_Pocket]

Planted 2 beds of Crimson Clover last season and they were
fantastic. No invasion issues. Plan to plant lots more this season. White clover was OK but not cover as much as
Crimson. Could be the seed stock. Bees loved both. As far as invasive I will send you some Star
Thistle and crab grass. Struggle with both in zone 9B.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by  Foxy_Pocket.

[Garden-of-Grace-Homestead]

Thank you for sharing your experience with me! I believe I’m gonna sow some on one end of our garden, closest to the end that I’m changing from tilling to permaculture. My husband is a firm believer in tilling and I’m wanting him to change to perma. The only way I can convince him, is to show him. So our garden is now split in half! His and Hers. 😄 No thank you on the thistle and crabgrass!! Have plenty myself!☺