Alternative poultry feed

  • Alternative poultry feed

    Posted by pow on September 14, 2022 at 3:27 pm

    This will be my 3rd attempt to start bug farming in the barn

    Locally to me there is a bug called soldier fly that looks like a wasp.

    Their lifespan is quite short, in the adult form they don’t even have mouths.

    Have been watching videos on people that produce and feed soldier fly larvae to their poultry.

    Online the word is dry soldier fly larvae being up to 43% protein.

    I’m very cheep and refused to buy any larvae, because it is local. And before with old feed I have been able to attract them to my barn. Which I have just successfully done again.

    With feed prices going up I am taking those endeavor very seriously now.

    In the next few months I will be priced out of animal feed, just like many others.

    Bugs are great for protein But you can’t just feed your layer hens any random home made feed and expect them to keep laying.

    If there is ANYONE who home makes all there feed or just some supplementary feed produced from there farm, what are the produce and ingredients you use?

    Millet? Crushed corn? Sogrum? Sweet potato’s?

    With soldier fly farming, everything can be done in a little space and be not as Time consuming.

    I have heard of people farming worms for chickens and I really like that idea, but I don’t have the facilities to protect the chickens when they’re on the compost pile right now. Nor do I have the time to dig for worms.

    But if you do farm worms, I and others would still Love to hear how you do that process.

    If you have a compost pile at what times do you put the chickens on that pile to scratch it up and eat?

    Is you pile right next to the chickens?

    any experience with farming any bugs?

    And this does not have to be limited to chickens.

    If you have one duck,

    And you supplement feed by growing water cress in an old bath tube behind the house please comment and tell us that process.

    I come from the standpoint of having over 50 chickens, table scraps are not just going to feed all of them. but for some people that is definitely enough. Feel free to make a comments on how you do homemade feed and supplements whether you’re a big flock owner or small flock owner

    We may be in this for the long hall. We all need to be independent as possible.

    This is a very wide ranging topic, But for a lot of people it needs to be discussed because Poultry are available to many, and they don’t take up that much space.

    Thank you have a great day!

    Stoutlander replied 2 years, 2 months ago 11 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Hanidu-Acres

    Member
    September 14, 2022 at 3:38 pm

    I have started BSF multiple times and have fed them to a wide range of livestock. But, I get distracted and they die out or the weather (even in FL) gets them. I’m considering a small structure moving forward. Mill worms also interest me, but I’ve never raised them.

    • Stpdsteve

      Member
      September 15, 2022 at 3:06 pm

      Mealworms are super easy. My biggest problem with them is just not forgetting them completely. all you need is a container, rolled oats, and I use carrots for their water.

  • Grams56

    Member
    September 14, 2022 at 3:50 pm

    I only have 3 hens for eggs, but I give them mealworms (TS) as a treat. Daily I make fermented feed out of corn, lentils, split peas, black oil sunflower seeds. Oats and bagged feed a friend had given me. They do have layer pellets kept in coop if they get hungry.

  • Wilburs-Place

    Member
    September 14, 2022 at 11:09 pm

    I have 11 hens that are laying now. They have their laying crumble, grits and oyster shell available at all times. But, the ladies eat what I eat! And, they eat any garden leaf cuttings or grass that I throw in their coop. I use wild bird seed for scratch. I found it to be a lot cheaper. They, and my dog have a hybrid diet of kibble/crumble and my (healthy) table scraps – mostly veggies and meat. I try to keep a substantial garden of kale and mixed greens for the ladies as well!

    • pow

      Member
      September 15, 2022 at 1:48 pm

      Chickens really do love their greens.<div>My garden isn’t that much of a success for greens, but we have the wild Spanish needle/Shepherds needle here it’s got a lot of nutrients and it grows everywhere. They love that stuff</div>

  • c563

    Member
    September 15, 2022 at 11:51 am

    I am looking into producing more of my chicken feed. I have 14 chickens. I only feed them commercial scratch and layer pellets when I let them out of the coop in the morning. They free range all day. I have a LGD and about an acre fenced in to free range on. We are growing meal worms as a supplement and treat. I have a compost pile in the fenced in area that gets my kitchen scraps and garden cuttings. We grew some field corn in a 20×20 fenced in plot this year, so we can grind the corn to supplement the chicken feed.

    I have goats too, and when I clean the pens, that goes into the compost pile also.

    I have tried soldier flies also, did not work well in central Oklahoma.

  • c563

    Member
    September 15, 2022 at 11:53 am

    I am brainstorming now about hay alternatives for my goats.

  • Toni

    Member
    September 15, 2022 at 4:18 pm

    If you have a cow or know someone who does, chickens thrive on clabber as a mainstay if they can also free range. We also have a meal worm farm, grow extra winter squash, pumpkins, okra, amaranth, etc. Bone broth, if you have a source and supply on bones is great for minerals for them too. Putting a chicken leg or other meat in a five gallon bucket with holes drilled in the bottom of the sides can supply a large amount of nutrition also as the flies get in and lay eggs in the meat that turn into maggots that then crawl out and drop, making it available to the birds as supplementary protein. Just hang the bucket above nose level to avoid the unwelcome smells, lol. But it only works in warm weather. Lots of things that can be done. They also love chickweed which grows well even in very cold temps.

    Looking forward to all your ideas to add to our chicken pantry 🙂

    • Toni

      Member
      September 15, 2022 at 4:21 pm

      Oh, another way to stretch whatever you do have is to grow fodder for them indoors. Wheat and barley grow very quickly and chickens make them disappear very quickly during winter here.

    • Pukalani-Farm

      Member
      September 15, 2022 at 5:14 pm

      This is some great info! Thanks.

  • Yahwehs-Farmstead

    Member
    September 17, 2022 at 3:39 am

    Look up perma pasture farms chicken tractor on steroids on youtube… I have yet to do this but am going to try soon . Good luck

    • Toni

      Member
      September 17, 2022 at 5:14 am

      We are just getting ready to try this. We have meat birds in the brooder now but can’t use his steroid tractor cause we chose the wrong breed. But in the next week or so we are expecting delivery of 25 buff orpington pullets and 2 BO roos that we plan to use his idea with. These will be the first chickens we will be keeping confined to a specific area and our plan is to use the hens to lay fertile eggs we can incubate and hatch for meat birds next year, and to use their chicken tractor on steroids for those also. We planted cover crops over our finished garden area for them ahead of time so they should have plenty of greens. We also do have the comfrey already growing. What we do not have is the access to scraps from local businesses like he does to supply the approximately 5 pounds per day of grains he feeds out daily for carbs for 25 birds, so we are going to have to figure that out since they also will not have access to the wild seeds etc, that the free ranging birds do. We do have all the things I mentioned above and hoping that works in this system. We’ll let you know how it goes. Our current backyard flock is strictly free range and scraps in summer,
      and free range and clabber, fodder, walnuts and mealworms, etc in winter. We have several and various
      stands of different herbs, berries and other wild forage that they love too. And some wooded areas they love to scratch through for bugs and all sorts of other lil critters.

      • LoneWolf

        Member
        September 23, 2022 at 10:06 pm

        i have an idea/drawing for a chicken tractor made of cattle panel for structure & w/ chicken wire for extra mesh. I think I could draw it, but I have a visual imagination. I’m going to email you a drawing, if I may. Let me know if you want to see it

  • Stoutlander

    Member
    September 27, 2022 at 10:06 am

    I was thinking about this last winter and settled on the idea of growing Seminole pumpkins. They keep for nearly a year (so I heard), they are good to eat and chickens like pumpkins. Anyway, I planted 6 hills with 3 seeds per hill. They were slow sprouting, but all sprouted. Planted on June 3rd in S.W. Missouri. 2 hills took off, 1 hill started to, and the others didn’t do squat. I’m looking at about 20 pumpkins from the 2 hills, and the vines are still flowering. They took a long time to flower- around mid August, but since then those two hills are doing great.

    I’m thinking that the possible problem may have been contaminated soil. When I planted them I added some Timberline brand topsoil that I bought at Lowes as this was an area I never gardened before and the soil here is terrible. I’ve seen that people have been getting bagged soil contaminated with aminopyralid herbicide over the years. The leaves did not curl though (one of the signs). Maybe it was the seeds. I’m running some test plots right now with the Timberline soil to verify.

    Anyway, I’ll use the pumpkins I have and see how much of a help it is with winter feeding.

    This is a good subject and I’m glad that you brought it up. Thank you.

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