lets get clean or dirty with batteries

  • lets get clean or dirty with batteries

    Posted by gods-child on February 13, 2023 at 11:10 am

    food for thought

    how much mining and slave labour does it take to produce one [1] yes one [1] lithium battery that costs £thousands…?? for a solar set-up

    is it not time we re-valuate our values to see if we want to contribute or continue to contribute to slave-labour and the destruction of earth

    compare that to the same for traditional lead-acid or gel batteries

    12v lead-acid and gel batteries can also be purchased for a fraction of the price of lithium and most folk do not know they can go to vehicle breaker yards also known as scrap yards and get vehicle batteries for a fraction of the cost of a new battery

    and you may also save costs on other things such as cables and connectors switches lights fuses and more plus there could be other things and bargains to help save money for your homestead or mobile-home and-such

    for example

    where i live i can get second-hand 12v vehicle batteries anywhere from £10 ~ £40 each whereas one [1] new lead-acid battery starts at around £90 for a 60ah ~ 70ah wheres the higher the [ah] the higher the price

    thereby if you purchase second-hand 12v vehicle batteries you would be saving them going in the landfill and saving lots of money

    and

    looking at the high and low price scale for 12v second-hand vehicle batteries

    lets calculate costs for a single battery

    if second-hand only last five [5] years you can weigh them in get a few bob back or could likely do a swap for a good second-hand battery from the breakers yards or scrap yards or even second-hand vehicle dealers

    £40 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £160 v £4,000 a massive saving of £3,840

    £10 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £40 v £4,000 a massive saving of £3,960

    the batteries may last longer as i have seen some folk that claim they are still using their 12v vehicle lead-acid batteries nine [9] years on

    £40 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £80 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,920

    £10 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £20 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,980

    lets calculate costs for a battery-bank of ten [10] batteries

    £40 10x is equal to £400 v £10,000 a massive saving of £9,600

    £10 10x is equal to £100 v £10,000 a massive saving of £9,900

    £400 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £1,600 v £40,000 a massive saving of £38,400

    £100 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £400 v £40,000 a massive saving of £39,600

    £400 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £800 v £20,000 a massive saving of £19,200

    £100 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £200 v £20,000 a massive saving of £19,800

    lest calculate a new lower end lead-acid 60ah ~ 70ah battery at an average £90 each

    £90 is equal to £1,000 a massive saving of £910

    £90 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £360 v £4,000 a massive saving of £3,640

    £90 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £180 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,820

    lest calculate a new lower end [ah] lead-acid 60ah ~ 70ah battery at an average £90 each for a battery bank of ten [10]

    £90 10x is equal to £900 v £10,000 a massive saving of £9,100

    £900 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £3,600 v £40,000 a massive saving of £36,400

    £900 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £1,800 v £20,000 a massive saving of £18,200

    lets calculate a 240ah new leisure battery at average price of £390

    £390 is equal to £390 v £1,000 a massive saving of £610

    £390 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £1,560 v £4,000 a massive saving of £2,440

    £390 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £780 v £2,000 a massive saving of £1,220

    lets calculate a 240ah new leisure battery at average price of £390 for a battery bank of ten [10]

    £3,900 is equal to £3,900 v £10,000 a massive saving of £6,100

    £3,900 4x over twenty [20] years is equal to £15,600 v £40,000 a massive saving of £24,400

    £3,900 2x over twenty [20] years is equal to £7,800 v £20,000 a massive saving of £12,200

    the costs will vary for area to area country to country thus this is only a guide based on my sources and first hand knowledge

    also cheaper quicker more environmentally friendly to replace for most and makes connections with those in breakers yards or scrap yards or even second-hand vehicle dealers

    for those in remote areas you may be able to purchase online on places like ebay and have them shipped to you

    open for discussion

    does this make sense to you or do you have a different point of view…??

    sources:

    https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/02/01/south-america-s-lithium-fields-reveal-the-dark-side-of-our-electric-future

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/01/1152893248/red-cobalt-congo-drc-mining-siddharth-kara

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/child-labour-behind-smart-phone-and-electric-car-batteries/

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/22/signs-of-forced-labor-found-in-chinas-ev-battery-supply-chain-report.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/03/child-labour-toxic-leaks-the-price-we-could-pay-for-a-greener-future

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/u-s-shift-on-child-labor-may-scramble-ev-sector/

    https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/china-lithium-ion-batteries-child-labour-us-trade-war

    p.s

    if my calculations are off please correct me as i am not good with math

    bona-fide

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