[Hanidu-Farms]

If I understand freedom accurately: everyone gets to choose where they spend their time/money. They don’t need my permission, nor do they have to go-all-in for or against a specific agenda…

[Sojourner]

Yes indeed. each of us are free to make our own decisions.

It just gets old really quick watching the pot call the kettle black.

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[The1plantguy]

Yes but it is very difficult to spend money responsibly due to the limited amount of suppliers of products.

[Kingscairn]

And ever increasing prices

[Bavaria65]

So either get with it all the way, (or please just be quiet.)… ? Not possible for most of us to get with it “All” the way.

[Sojourner]

Get with it all the way or just be quiet is in reference to picking and choosing what evil corporations you want to boycott.

It seems from where I sit, with no dog in the fight to be pure hypocrisy to choose one over the other.

Of course that’s just what I see from my perspective. You might share your thoughts on why it’s ok to pick and choose 1 here or there while continuing to do business with all the rest of them.

Perhaps you could help me understand how that makes any sense? 🤔

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[OldMcDonald]

I understand your hate for hypocrisy. This however is a matter of simply doing what’s in your ability to do. Not everyone has the ability to boycott PG&E unless they want their power shut off. On the other hand, most people have the ability to boycott tractor supply. Its simply a matter of fighting against evil where you have the ability to do so. Its doing what you can as opposed to doing nothing at all.

[Bavaria65]

Not only Cooperation …even some Churches, Gover-ment etc. But it is also a Money Issue who I can drop like a hot potato. My SSD is a must ,I can’t survive without , T-Mobil give me the best Senior/Military Discount , another example I got 3 bags of Tomato/Veggie fertilizer for $2.96 /Bag regular $11.98 (yes, to get the best deals I always buy off season:) I bought at Lowes but if Tractor S. would had that deal then I would bought from them. So I think everybody has to make their own decision what works with them and honestly if you see the bigger picture is $$$=Power . Sad but true.

[LongIslandLaura]

D & S were not boycotting everything, if you watched all of the videos regarding this topic, he said HE was going to boycott because they were 1. LYING about it, and 2. PUSHING the ESG agenda without any concern for the welfare of children. And YES, you should do your BEST (whatever that is) to boycott as many of these companies as humanly possible.

[OldMcDonald]

Well said!

[Carter]

Yes! We know many of these companies are evil. But it’s not possible to do away with them all. We know that. But when a company out right lies when being questioned by their customers. That is what I think has so many upset. Well said.

[Sojourner]

They All are liars.(Corporations) None innocent here. It’s like when they say you should vote for the lesser of two evils if that’s all you have to choose from.

No matter what you do in a situation like that, evil still maintains its agenda.

Perhaps it makes one “feel” like they resisted evil by choosing the lesser of the two. So, it does good psychologically for the individual to follow their conscience.

I would always encourage folks to follow their conscience in matters, it doesn’t matter if it makes any sense to others. It’s good to be true to your own self.

[OldMcDonald]

It’s simply fighting the fight where you are capable of doing so. People can spend, or not spend their money where ever they so choose. To anyone who wishes to boycott as many companies as possible which are trying to corrupt children, here is a list of what I’ve found so far. I noticed a few clot shot companies which appear on this list.

1-800-FLOWERS.COM, Inc.
2U, Inc.
23andMe
3M Company
AMN Healthcare
Abercrombie & Fitch
Accenture
Acxiom LLC
The Adecco Group
Adobe, Inc.
Advance Auto Parts
AEO Inc.
Affirm
Airbnb
Albemarle Corporation
AllianceBernstein
Ally
Altria Group Inc.
Amalgamated Bank
Amazon
AMD
American Airlines
American Express
American Honda Motor Company
Amgen, Inc.
Anaplan
Apple
Applied Materials, Inc.
Arcadis U.S. Inc.
Asana, Inc.
Ascena
AstraZeneca
AT&T
Atlassian
Autodesk
Avanade, Inc.
BASF Corporation
BBVA USA
BCW (Burson Cohn & Wolfe)
Baker Tilly US
Bayer US LLC
Beam Suntory
Ben & Jerry’s Homemade, Inc.
Berkshire Bank
Best Buy Co., Inc.
Biogen
Block, Inc. (formerly Square, Inc.)
Bloomberg LP
Blueprint Medicines
Boehringer Ingelheim USA
Boston Consulting Group
Boston Scientific
Bounteous
Box, Inc.
Bright Health Group
Bright Horizons Family Solutions
Brown-Forman Corporation
CNA Insurance
CVS Health
Capital One
Cardinal Health
Cargill
Cargo Transporters, Inc.
Carlson
Celanese
Center for Community Self-Help
Chobani
Citigroup, Inc.
Clearway Energy Group
The College Board
Comcast NBC Universal
Compass
CONVERSE, Inc.
Corning Incorporated
Cowen Inc.
CrowdStrike
CSAA Insurance Group
Curology
DWS Investments
Dechert LLP
Deckers Brands (UGG, HOKA, Teva, Sanuk, and Koolaburra by UGG)
Dell Technologies
Deutsche Bank USA Corp.
Discord
Dow Inc.
Doximity
Dropbox Inc.
EAB
EDP Renewables North America
EMD Serono, MilliporeSigma and EMD Electronics
Early Warning Services, LLC
Eastern Bank
Elanco Animal Health
Electronic Arts
Equinix
Equitable
Etsy, Inc.
FactSet Research Systems, Inc.
Fastly
Flexport, Inc.
G2
GP Strategies Corporation
Gap, Inc.
Gearbox
Genentech
General Mills
General Motors
Gilead Sciences, Inc.
GitHub
Glassdoor
Global Blood Therapeutics, Inc.
GoDaddy
Google
Gusto
H&M
H&R Block
HP, Inc.
HSBC Bank USA
Harley-Davidson Motorcycle Company
The Hartford
Hewlett Packard Enterprises
Hilton
Hyatt
Hyve Solutions
IBM Corp.
ICM Partners
IHG Hotels & Resorts
IHS Markit
IKEA North America Services, LLC
Included Health
Indigo Ag
Instacart
Intel
International Flavors and Fragrances, Inc. (IFF)
Interpublic Group
Intuit
Invitae Corporation
JCPenney
Jacobs
John Hancock
Johnson & Johnson
Kaplan, Inc.
Kearney
Kellogg Company
The Knot Worldwide
The Kraft Heinz Company
Lam Research
LinkedIn
LegalZoom
Levi Strauss & Co.
Lexmark International, Inc.
Logitech
Lululemon
Lush Fresh Handmade Cosmetics
Lyft, Inc.
Macy’s, Inc.
Mailchimp
ManpowerGroup
Marriott International, Inc.
Mars, North America
Marsh McLennan
MassMutual
Mastercard
Mattel, Inc.
McKesson
Medtronic PLC
Meow Wolf
Merck
Meta
MetLife, Inc.
Micron
Microsoft
Mobilize
Molson Coors Beverage Company
Momentive
Mondelez International
Moss Adams
NI
NXP USA, Inc.
New Belgium Brewing
NextRoll, Inc.
Niantic
Nielsen
Nike, Inc.
Nordstrom, Inc.
Nuance Communications
Okta
Olo
Oracle Corporation
PNC Financial Services Group
PwC
Pacific Gas & Electric Company
Paramount Global
Pariveda Solutions
Patagonia
Patreon
PayPal
Peloton Interactive, Inc.
PepsiCo, Inc.
PetSmart, LLC
Pfizer Inc.
Pinterest
PowerSchool
Power Home Remodeling
Prudential Financial, Inc.
REI Co-op
RES (Renewable Energy Systems)
Ralph Lauren
Randstad US
Realogy Holdings Corp.
Red Hat, Inc.
Redfin Real Estate
Ripple
Royal Bank of Canada
SAP
SAGE Publishing
Salesforce
Shell USA, Inc.
Shipt, Inc.
Shutterstock
Siemens Corporation, USA
Siemens Gamesa Renewable Energy
Siemens Healthineers USA
Silicon Labs
Signet Jewelers
Sony Interactive Entertainment
Sony Music Group
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Splunk
Starbucks
State Street Corporation
Sun Life
Sustainable Food Policy Alliance, including member companies Danone North America; Mars, Incorporated; Nestlé USA; and Unilever United States
Symetra Life Insurance Company
Synchrony Financial
TD SYNNEX
T-Mobile
Takeda Pharmaceuticals, U.S.A., Inc.
Target
TechNet
Teva Pharmaceuticals
Thermo Fisher Scientific
Tinuiti, Inc.
Toyota Motor North America, Inc.
Trane Technologies
Trillium Asset Management
TriNet Group, Inc.
Tripadvisor
TripleLift
Twitter, Inc.
UKG
Uber
Unilever United States
Union Pacific
United Airlines
Unity
Upwork
Via Transportation
Victoria’s Secret & Co.
VMLY&R
VMware
WE Communications
WPP
The Walt Disney Company
Warby Parker
WarnerMedia
Warner Music Group
Wayfair
Wayside Youth & Family Support Network
Weber Shandwick
Wells Fargo
WeWork
Workday, Inc.
Wpromote
Xperi Holding Corporation
Xylem
Yahoo! Inc.
Yelp Inc.
Yext
Zendesk
Ziff Davis
Zillow
Zoom Video Communications
Zurich North America
Zwift
Zynga Games

Found on: https://freedomforallamericans.org/business-statement-on-anti-lgbtq-state-legislation/

[Sojourner]

I’m really thinking you guys are trying to help me understand your viewpoint. thanks for that.

In my mind it’s still not clear how not buying a Whataburger but going around the corner to order at McDonald’s makes any difference at all, than making me “feel” virtuous.

So, if I’m missing the whole point some how, I ask for your patience and please try and explain using the allegory above of 2 evil fast food places each supporting the same agenda.

Thanks in advance, perhaps at some point the light bulb will go on somewhere?

[OldMcDonald]

In regard to your example, I don’t think there really is a difference. Perhaps in that scenario, there is whole lot of self virtue signaling going on.

Let me give you an example so I can better explain my ideas and thoughts on this issue. I currently use a smartphone, GUILTY. I also used to shop at tractor supply, but now I no longer will. Overall, I will now give less money to evil companies than I would have before. As a whole, less money is now going to corrupt organizations which is why I dont think it has to be an absolute all or nothing sort of thing.

Money=power and in my opinion the less overall money I/we give to these companies the less power they have. In my personal opinion, when we collectively give less money overall to these evil groups the less power they have to push for agendas/laws that I don’t support. Its about limiting their power as much as we can while still leaving our lights on so to speak.

PS I also used to shop at petsmart every now and then, but because your original post prompted me to look at that list I will no longer be shopping there as well. There are also a couple other companies on that list that will no longer get my business which I was not aware of until just now so thank you for opening my eyes to that.

[Sojourner]

Thanks very much for your thoughtful reply. I think we will just have to agree to disagree here. The important thing to take away from this is each must obey their own conscience and not to judge the other.

At least I better understand where you are coming from on the issue and have a better grasp of what may be going on in the mind of those who choose to boycott. Thanks

[Kingscairn]

Old Mcdonald – very good – you saved me some finger skin

[AlphaDelta]

I’ve been somewhat careful about what companies I spend money with for decades. I keep it as simple as I can. Buy local whenever possible. national burger chain or ma and pa shop? I’m picking ma and pa every time. There are times when there is no good alternative. In that case do what you need to.

[The1plantguy]

Yep. It is so difficult to vote with your dollar today. Corporations have been allowed to grow too large and they have removed meaningful competition. We need more Americans to start making things again so we have better options to put our money, but for now, we are kind of stuck.

[Hanidu-Farms]

Yes.

[Summerhat-n-Chicks]

Absolutely.

[Sojourner]

It would be nice to see more mom and pop shops open up.

Problem is the Beast system is designed to stomp on and destroy such enterprises.

We will never return to those days. The great experiment has reached it’s conclusion…

[Cord]

The only problem with boycotts is that you deny not only the entity that you are boycotting but you deny your neighbor that works at that entity. When I go into the local TS, there are neighbors, community leaders, folks I go to church with, well you get the point. I used to think boycotts were a good tool for those of us with little power until I actually thought about the collateral damage it does in the process.

[Sojourner]

@Cord Thanks for sharing that perspective. I too at one time thought about participating in boycotting. Then when I was able to take a step back from the emotional attachment to the particular issue, I came to the same conclusion you did.

It’s way to easy to use the children to whip people into.a frenzy of emotional decision making. How do you think “St. Joseph’s Children Hospital” manages to fund raise billions for their off shore accounts?

[LynneinNC]

I struggle with this while shopping.

Mainly, I feel that the folks working in these stores are my neighbors, some are relatives. I support the workers by shopping where I can afford to shop. I do like having the freedom of choices and hope that these folks can continue working to provide for their families.

Is my shopping supporting the ee.ess.gee? Probably, in my area there aren’t many options.

[Stoutlander]

Some people learn how to swim by being thrown into the deep end of the pool. Most learn gradually. To tell folks to be all in or shut up is wrong.

Be aware. Knowledge is power. The more you know, the better decisions you can make. If you just plant the seed, you have done something good. To silence yourself is to quit.

I was thrown into the deep end of the pool but never said that is how all people should learn how to swim. I would also never tell anyone to not learn to swim.

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[Sojourner]

@Stoutlander Thanks for some good advice. I went on a rant and was just as guilty as those I got pissed at.

Things surely are not all black or white, there are many shades and colors.

So to those I may have offended I must apologize and learn to be quiet more and think more deeply before I respond to anyone.

Isn’t it interesting how we humans are most often just as guilty of the things we see in others that piss us off?

Learning to be still and quiet when our emotions are all jacked up is a life long process.

Still learning, thanks to others who bring some correction.

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[Stoutlander]

You’re a good man.

In an ideal situation I believe you would be absolutely correct in what you said. It’s so deep now that it’s often hard to avoid every place that some should not be supporting if their beliefs are true. Back in Jesus’s day they paid taxes to their oppressors and I’m willing to bet that many were thinking the same things back then that we are talking about now. I believe the best we can do is to keep talking about it, voice our opinions to these companies, and encourage other like minded folks. We need to keep talking about it though so we don’t forget so thank you for bringing it up.

[Hanidu-Farms]

I do believe there are some who could actually go all in “across the board” with boycotting. But, yeah; I tend to overstate things too!

[Sojourner]

@Hanidu-Farms I hear you don’t we all at times over or understate things. I feel like I’m in school learning how to keep an even keel and my rudder steering in the right direction in the middle of a hurricane!

[Sojourner]

We got some real sweet brothers and sisters here all who are passionate about certain things.

I reckon we’re all learning how to be on fire and still bring some warmth without burning down the house with everyone in it.

Thanks for just being who you are.You each are an important and vital part of the whole big picture. I can get pretty myopic at times and need others to help me take a step back.

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[SouthDeltaHomestead]

I look at it like this, the WHOLE system is captured by evil and most modern people do not have the means to get outside of that system, myself I have bought from TSC, but I prefer to buy from my local co-op, I will now buy from the co-op as much as I can, when it comes to children I have no wiggle room, leave our children alone. The only way we change this evil corrupted system is to do what Doug is doing, take every chance to call them out, evil is evil you will never eliminate it all but you can try to me mindful of it and minimize it at best, hopefully they do right and if not hurt their wallet. Make a difference where ever you can. If you say I can’t make a difference you never will. Leave our children alone!!!!!

[Kingscairn]

That’s just ridiculous – D&S arent clickbait, to the contrary , theyre concerned, Patriotic Americans trying to protect America’s Traditions & MOST OF ALL- HER CHILDREN from pathetic, lost, mutant, adult juevenile freaks who are hell bent on destroying their childhood innocence with immoral, satanic, physical & mental abuse because they were abused as children and want to PAY IT FORWARD – aint happenin you will be stopped and business’s that assist you in your demented pagan ways will know what CANCEL is all about – only now – you’ll be on the losing end of the stick

[Kingscairn]

Some folks may not have many options other than TRACTOR SUPPLY, but thats a minority as opposed to those that do – I do – I always went to TS because it was convenient on errand day – but – with a little thought, rationale and ethics – I now go to a Mom & Pop COOP, Christian, Patriot & Wholesome Family’s – dont need WOKE Commiecrat twisted sister Corporations conspiring to dismantle my Country or my friends & family – ESG BE DAMNED !

[Stoutlander]

I agree with you. Here’s the thing though; Some fellow tells everyone why they shouldn’t spend their money at tractor supply but he has no problem taking money from youtube and advertisers that have done pretty much the same thing that tractor supply did.

[Sojourner]

@Stoutlander I was kind of getting use to cringing and ducking each time I read a reply from this thread.

“Here’s the thing though; Some fellow tells everyone why they shouldn’t spend their money at tractor supply but he has no problem taking money from youtube and advertisers that have done pretty much the same thing that tractor supply did.”

It’s good to know I’m not entirely alone seeing things this way.

I’m learning when EMOTIONS become engaged, All logical thinking ceases… It works just the same when I react to anything that is a “trigger mechanism” to me.

I have noticed how “children” are often used (pimped out) to enrage people and steer them along a certain path. It could be me making 💰 from YouTube advertisers. Or a politician or some covert psyops guy called Q. Or a children’s hospital ripping the public for billions that they hide offshore.

Very soon the Light of God will reveal every hidden thing in the hearts of human beings.

We will all be very surprised when those hidden things are clearly revealed!

[Marthale7]

I vote with my pocket book. I may not be perfect, but so far I have stopped using Amazon, and Skype, and Facebook, and I have deleted my google account, and paypal account is gone.

I consider it practice for the mark of the beast…. Good practice to say no.

I am all about alternatives like homeschool.

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[Hanidu-Farms]

This is what I do, when and as I can.

[debstime]

Everybody has things they are against or for. Personally my opinion. Boycotting a place of business is totally up to the individual regardless of who they support. That extremely long list hopefully makes people see who all support things. The thing that got under my skin was the bickering. They know each other. If they have a disagreement then handle it without putting it on YT. I know for myself I watch to learn how to survive in the craziness we now face. And thankfully I have learned a lot. Personal issues to me should be handled privately.

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